What does Putin want with Ukraine

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Kasz216 said:

Mnementh said:

Sharu said:No. I have some pieces of info pointing on it, but no proof.

By the way, do you have any proof that Yanukovich ordered snipers to shoot people?

Oh no, the unfaillable west and the maidan claimed that the snipers were from Yanukovich. That does not need to be proofed, just beli3ve!!!!

If you have some points that pointstoward another explanation (as unearthed), that is not enough to beat the claims of the West. You have to provide proof, and double that. Because the western government never ever lie or claim stuff without evidence. Like WMDs in Iraq.

I'm guessing you don't know much about the whole WMD's in iraq thing outside the fact that there weren't any there, if you think the Sharu/West is behind everything statements remotely are the same.

There was plenty of evidence pointing to Iraq having WMDs.  Just none of it ended up being true.  The Bush administration more or less got taken in by info they wanted to believe provided by third parties, while ignore other information.

It's a much more fascinating story then simply "Bush made up some stuff".

Bush administration didn't make up stuff, because they thought Iraq had WMD's, despite the fact that Iraq rejected these allegations, despite the fact that Iraq had complied with UN requests to allow inspectors, despite the fact that the UN, along with an earlier Iraqi defector, claimed that no WMD's could be found, despite the fact that integrity of whatever "evidence" that was forwarded was questioned, despite the fact that no WMD's were found post-conflict, instead of waiting for strong evidence for their claims to surface, despite the fact that, even if present, Iraqi WMD's would not be an imminent threat to the American public or interests. The only fascinating bit is that Bush and Cheney are not in a cell right now.

Edit: I originally accused you of justifying the Iraq war. Edited after I saw your other post. My apologies.