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I think the DS4 is objectively inferior. It's funny how whenever Sony changes something about their controller THEN everybody admits it was a bad thing. Like NOW people tend to admit the DS3 was junk because now Sony has DS4. But they never admitted it before, but rather defended DS3. And all the changes they made in DS4 made it more like a 360 controller, and everybody admits those are good things.

I guess my point is people will only be free to admit offset sticks are objectively superior whenever Sony finally switches to them. Until then we'll continue this charade.

Personally the DS, symmetric sticks are the reason I dont enjoy Playstation, so this controller is for me. And Hori is supposed to be good quality, right?

It's only 54 bucks on Playasia, less than official controllers.

That said it's missing the touchpad which seems necessary for some games? AND it's wired.