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phil said:
totalwar23 said:
 

Umm, when did democracy collapse there? And it wouldn't be due to incompetent leadership, more like ethnic turmoil. And Iraq is not exactly a natural democracy, a forced one thanks to Bush.


Technically, you're right. Iraq's democracy hasn't fallen completely apart yet and there's still some vague semblance of order there. But give it a little time. As soon as the US withdraws, you can watch that deck of cards collapse. The problem of ethnic turmoil is something the leadership class has to deal with. If they can't deal with it, then they're incompetent. Even Saddam was able to handle the ethnic and sectarian differences.

Well, that's not going to happen, because if McCain's elected, we'll be there for 100 years. 

 Now, Saddam, he handled sectarian violence by killing everyone who disagreed which plays an integral role in the ethnic problems we have today in Iraq. Secondly, we have no way of knowing what will exactly happen. The people in that region are morel likely to listen to their spiritual leaders than to the government itself. I could say that civil war might break out after the US leaves and they'll end up partition the country into 3 parts, each creating three different stable democratic government, ones that the majority of each populace will want instead the crappy one they have today, which can't seem to do anything.