The Japanese Market is collapsing

[Lord N]

Kasz216 said:

gorgepir said:

Kasz216 said:

gorgepir said:

Kasz216 said:

gorgepir said:
Are you telling me that the United states pays more for the military industry that it gains? Do you mean that the net income is negative?

For the Military sector? Well yeah.

Notice the wording, miltary industry not sector. I didn't ask about the maintanence and recruiting ... .

I don't understand why you are makign a wording difference, the cold war forced Russia to further recruit and maintain more weapons.

Had the cold war not be restarted it's likely Russia would of just suffered a fate like cuba, where brain drain is a big problem.

Why stay here making scale when you can leave the country and make more? That's why Communism had to be a world wide revolution.

Repeating a sentence does not make it correct. If it was correct, it would have been the first time you said it.

I'm not sure what your trying to ask? Russia like the US lost a lot more money when Reagan restarted the Cold War due to the fact that they had to produce and maintain a higher army, while also selling weapons, often yes at a loss.

Were they selling most of their weapons at a loss? Can't say, I don't have detailed financials... I do know their military polcies as a whole when reagan restarted the cold war did in fact cost them way more then they gained on anything they sold for a profit.

That's one of the reasons why Reagan started the War... because the russian system was already hitting a lot of problems staying even so by putting more pressure on them to keep up their country it drove their economic problems into high gear.

The USR's Military took up a lot of their budget no doubt, that and gas prices lowering are mostly what did them in. Gas being one of their main sources on income.

Well that and corrupt government officials.

Lot of paralels here. Gas prices up instead of down, but we buy oil, don't sell it. Close to zero economic growth, large military budget due to a "war". Though this time on terrorists, corrupt political officials.

The cold war cost Russia a lot. The country would of eventually collapsed anyway... Communism can't work outside of a vacuum, but it would of took longer.

This is a common misconception.

Soviet military spending did not increase at all during the Reagan era, and the Soviet Union would have collapsed just the same without it.

On another note, it's true that the president has no control over the ups and downs of the business cycle, but there are things that he can do to mitigate economic downturn and set the way for recovery, and Bush has failed miserably in that regard. It certainly doesn't help that he decided to piss away the surplus on tax cuts for the rich, drag the US into a needless and counterproductive war which has cost hundreds of billions of dollars, or fund arcane and ridiculous projects with deficit spending instead of focusing money on areas where it would have helped the economy.