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d21lewis said:
endimion said:
in games and with gamers people might see a huge difference.... but in the general public I wouldn't bet on it.... My parents/ sister /relatives couldn't tell you the difference on a movie if I didn't tell them to look for it.... especially if they are upscaled... and they are sitting at a good distance from the TV
and a shit load of mainstream people are like them... 720p is HD btw the lowest setting but it is HD.... now between SD and HD more people do see the difference...

Back in the 90's, my mom couldn't tell the difference between a Super Nes and an Nes.  When Gears of War came out, my friends couldn't tell the improvement between that and Resident Evil 4 on the Gamecube.  I'm willing to bet that if I played Tomb Raider on the Xbox 360 and then showed them Tomb Raider on the PS4, virtually nobody I know would even notice that I changed consoles--not even my sis and her husband and they owned the Wii, PS3, and 360 (all of which are gathering dust except when my brother in law plays Madden for a few weeks every year).

It's gonna take more than graphics to sell consoles once the initial hardcore userbase runs dry.  I think it will be like trying to sell Blu-Ray to people that were happy with DVDs.

pretty much my thought... beside us and people like us around forums and blogs and all.... nobody is that big on resolution past 720p just yet.... heck even me since I have a nice soundsystem (about 6 years now) I'd advise anybody with the right amount of money to get a good sound system over a better TV.... I'd take a good action game with good sound localisation in 5.1 and 900p over one at 1080p and bad sound localization any day....

when I got it racing games and FPS got a totally new dimension, I could litteraly feel where things were coming from.... the sensorial upgrade beats any pixel pushing I have seen between low HD and full HD especially with upscaller.... now don't get me wrong I'd take a 80" 4K screen the day console will push that many pixel.... but the fight between upscalled 720p and 1080p is really a nerdy one with really little public at the end....