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Diomedes1976 said:
disolitude said:
 

1. Games you missed out for 360 that were pretty good were Kameo, Ridge racer 6, PGR3, Condemned, Lost Planet, Saits row, Call of duty 2... come on dude.

2. Pretty much all the games you listed in your PS3 2007 and 2008 lineup of games are available on the 360 as well. Except for 3 or 4 so so exclusives...and Uncharted

3. "NBA 2K ,Fight Night 3,Resistence ,Ridge Racer 7 ,Call of Duty 3 ,Marvel Ultimate Alliance ,Genji ,Madden 07" - these are the games that you listed as PS3 launch must buy games.

NBA2K, marvel, Madden, Fight night, ridge racer, call of duty 3...all available for 360 and Genju was crap. So you have 1 game that the system should be bought for (resistance). 360 had dozens of new experiences (good or bad) that you couldn't get anywhere else when it came out.

This has been the problem with PS3 for me. Nothing I can't play on the xbox 360 that I already own. While they may be on the right track compared to the horrible start...they did not distingush themselves form the 360 which was there a year earlier.


1.Lost Planet was out early 2007 so no it wasnt out the first year .Call of Duty 2 was a PC port ,Kameo was so so ,Condemned gathered some cult following but hadnt too much sucess .Saints Row well ....Bugs Row more like .Decent game I suppose in the absence of GTA ,but it still appeared some 10-11 months after the 360 launch .

2.Speaking of catalogue its irrelevant if some of those games are on the 360 too .If they are in the PS3 lineup its users can play it thats all .For people that dont have a console and plan to buy one its irrelevant if X game was first in one console or the other ,they just want access to the most games possible .As for exclusives it still had Ninja Gaiden Sigma ,Motorstorm ,Resistence ,Warhawk ,Heavenly Sword ,Folklore ,Ratchet and Clank ,Uncharted ,Unreal III ,Eye of Judgement ,Virtua Fighter 5 (for almost all the year ) and Singstar at least in Europe .Thats not "some so so exclusives plus Uncharted ".

3.Most the 360 games of the first year ,just as the current ones ,can be easily playable in PC without paying for the online and with better versions .GRAW ,Oblivion ,Condemned ,Call of Duty 2 ...I know if you already have the 360 buying the PS3 is less attractive but that also works the other way .Having the PS3 theres little gain buying the 360 ...you have to pay the Live fees adn dont get nearly anything more only to play some exclusives most of wich are on the PC too .At least the PS3 has a Blu Ray player to add some extra value .With those that had already bought the 360 Sony didnt have too much to do except with some hardcore gamers that wanted all the systems ,but seeing as the 360 was at 7 millions when the PS3 launched and that the war will be fought in the 120 million consoles or so it didnt desperately need those 7 million 360 users ...they had to position their console in a light that any new user willing to buy a console could choose the PS3 because having all these games too and additional value as BC ,Blu Ray player ,Wifi included ,better reliability ,free online service through PSN etc etc .And I think they just managed that in most places of the world ,even in the US once the BR has beat the HD-DVD .

 

Its clear that differentiating itself from the 360 is a though job due to 80% of the software being multiplattform .But the same can be said the other way .Each machine has its share of exclusives (Halo3,Gears of War ,Bioshock ,Mass Effect ,Lost Oddysey ,Blue Dragon,PGR4 and Forza 2 for the 360 and right now Heavenly Sword ,Warhawk ,Unreal III ,Ratchet and Clank ,Eye of Judgement ,Uncharted ,Resistence ,Everybodys Golf ,Motorstorm or Singstar for the PS3) ,their Live and PSN offerings are different enough and then we come to the functionalities of both systems and there I think the PS3 wins due to Wifi ,standard hard drive ,Blu Ray player ,better stability and realibility etc .

 

I dont hope to convince you ,I know for most of the autoconvinced 360 fans their exclusives are "sublime and the best lineup ever " even if they dont get more than 8-8.5 in the mags and the PS3 ones are "so so except Uncharted " even if confronted with rave reviews .But you have to take into account some people just likes better the PS3 exclusives (actual and future ) and the concept and building of the machine .


Was about to go to bed and then I caught this... :) I have to reply.

You are right aobut Lost planet, I lost a sense of time wiht that game but rest of the points I disagree with. So what if call of duty 2 was a PC port. It was the best COD title until COD4 came out...and looked much better than ps2 and xbox ports. I agree that Kameo was so so at best but people seemed to like it. Condemned was a great game...yes it did not sell extrememly well but that means nothing...neither did Okami.

I know its pointless to post titles released at launch as this is in the past. Today PS3 is picking up steam and is becoming a very solid console to own. But I have to do this for the sake of the argument...

360 1st month

Amped 3 - exclusive
Call of Duty 2
Condemned: Criminal Origins -exclusive at the time (pc came out 6 months later)
Every Party
FIFA '06: Road to FIFA World Cup
GUN
Kameo: Elements of Power -exclusive

Dead or alive 4 - exclusive

Madden NFL 06
NBA 2K6
NBA Live 06
Need for Speed: Most Wanted
NHL 2K6
Perfect Dark Zero - exclusive
Peter Jackson's King Kong: The Official Game of the Movie
Project Gotham Racing 3 - exclusive
Quake 4  - console exclusive
Ridge Racer 6 - exclusive at the time
Tetris: The Grandmaster Ace
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 06

Tony Hawk's American Wasteland

 

PS3's 1st month

Blazing Angels: Squadrons of WWII
Call of Duty 3
Genji: Days of the Blade - exclusive
Madden NFL 07
Marvel: Ultimate Alliance
Mobile Suit Gundam: Crossfire - exclusive
NBA 2K7
NHL 2K7
Resistance: Fall of Man - exclusive
Ridge Racer 7 (not exclusive as its same game as part 6 on xbox with some psp tracks included as well)

Tiger Woods PGA Tour 07
Tony Hawk's Project 8

 

The bottom line is that if buying a console at this point I would have a very tough time deciding which to get. I will probably buy a ps3 when mgs4 comes out anyways. I have nothing against PS3 or sony other than their arogance. But here we were arguing who had better launch titles...better games first year...and there really is no contest.

There is a reason 360 is still going toe to toe with the technically superior ps3 at the pretty much the same price point minus a bluray drive. Its the back catalog of games and upcoming exclusives that still make xbox360 look like a worthy investment.