selnor1983 said:
FlamingWeazel said:
selnor1983 said:
OK lets go back to basics. In this thread I explained why the resolution so far was poorer on Xbox One. I never mentioned effects or GPU. I said devs said the reason it wasnt the same res as PS4 was due to ESRAM and its SDK. On that Im 100% right. BF4 would be 900p also if the tiling SDK for the ESRAM was there earlier. Just to much extra dev work to write the code different for a multiplatform game. It was easier to just say do it at 720p. Now MS has done all that for them. Now 1080p is easy. Its not an issue of not enough ESRAM. Which was the issue as Ive showed you.
As for the GPU difference you keep bringing up? Maybe Sonys claims of Theoretical limit isnt really whats happening in realtime?
Look at the Witcher 3 devs comments. And they know a thing or 2 about visuals. They say theres not really any major power difference. Interesting.
I maintain that with the ESRAM issue resolved and SDK catching up to Sony Xbox One and PS4 2nd gen games will have much more parity.
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You are dilusional, the games so far has shown a 50 + percent gap, exactly the GPU advantage. Again, there is NOTZHING MS can do to offset a better gpu, that advantage always exist. Thje devs you mentioned, The Witcher yeah, that games is running better on ps4 as well. At times the ps4 is pushing better resolution ,e ffects and frame rate ala Tomb raider, BF4, soon the witcher 3 watch dogs.
Where did DICE say that about bf4?? They never. 1080p requires a LOT of gpu grunt, everything about graphics goes throught he GPU, you think ram can help the x1 gpu you don't have aclue waht you are saying. GPU IS the graphics processor, even if MS has 256 MB ESRAM it will do NOTHING to help the x1 gpu. it is impossible for their to ba parity unless a dev forces it or a game is not demanding like a sports game. You need some tech education.
LOL At using dev PR, the proof is this, Games look and run better oin ps4. The witcher 3 who said not much difference?? Yep better resolution on ps4......learn what PR is. Kojima said there was no difference.......MGS Ground zeroes 1080p on PS4, 720p on x1......It's PR noithng more. No amount of PR or talk changes the fact there cannot ever be parity, hardware is hardware period.
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There is literally no point to continue discussion with you.
I present evidence. You come back with theory. You wont accept a developer telling you the truth and why they did something a certain way because it all of a sudden doesnt fit the bash Xbox One agenda.
Thank god the games in 2015 will speak for themselves.
Someone else can talk to you, because I cant discuss with someone who dismisses facts with conspiracy.
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You never gave one shred of evidence ESRAM does not do Graphics processing in which PS4 is a big advantage and always will. You mentioned DICE comments, yet cannot post rpoof, bring up the witcher 3 when that game also runs at a higher resolution on PS4....Devs are saying that as PR, to them it's not a huge difference, but double or 30% resolution and better frame rate is significant. The witcher dfev said no muhc difference, game runs way better on PS4 lol.
How are games going to speak for themselves in 2015, x1 GPU will still be weaker then too. Still waiting how thew x1 will have pariety when it has a weaker graphics unit, how is that possible? Games will get more demanding.
Many in the industry are speaking up about the truth and not PR:
http://gamingbolt.com/industry-insider-believes-that-watch_dogs-ps4-will-be-better-expects-performance-to-widen-in-future
The gap will widen.
