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McGran on 22 February 2014
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Kasz216 said:
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It's common sense.  Here's a little pratical expirment for you.

Compare the price of gas in the united states, vs the price of gas in the united states before the Iraq war.

Compare the price for a barrel of oil now, compaired to before the iraq war.

So... where is all that oil?

Your arguement is the US invaded Iraq for oil it didn't get.  So it could pay more for gas.

It's just a bad arguement.

I mean.... lets look shall we.

http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_move_impcus_a2_nus_ep00_im0_mbbl_m.htm

So... a little under 7,000 barrels of Oil from iraq....

 

The US spent trillions of dollars for like...   2% increase in oil per month?

 

Pretty damn expensive oil, not counting the fact that we still have to pay for it.

 

Oh wait.  Except we were actually getting MORE oil from Iraq when it was ruled by Sadam Hussein.  A hell of a lot more

http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=MTTIMIZ1&f=M

 

So I mean... seriously.  What... we went to war with iraq and wasted trillions and trillions of dolalrs in oil to get less then 25% the amount of oil we could of been getting?

That makes total sense.

 

Saddam Hussein would of LOVED to sell more oil to the USA.  Saddam was only anti-USA because USA was anti him.

No, my argument is that the article I linked makes a better case that the Iraq war was about oil than you are making that it was not.

Fair play to you for trying to make a convincing argument here.  Unfortunately you have created an argument to refute a point that you made rather than the point made in the article.

The article does not make the case that the objective was to increase US oil imports from Iraq, it makes the case that the war was about western oil companies gaining control of Iraq oil.

"Yes, the Iraq War was a war for oil, and it was a war with losers: the Iraqi people and all those who spilled and lost blood so that Big Oil could come out ahead."


So let me get this straight.

Your arguement is that the US government spent TRILLIONS so oil companies could make hundreds of millions a year?   What is this a 100 year plan.

Again, i gotta ask... why?   Some oil tax cuts would of worked a whole lot better at making them more money for cheaper.

Outside that... it still doesn't play out.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petroleum_industry_in_Iraq#Service_Contracts_Licensing_Results

Look at all that.... the US went to war, So that Exon Mobile and Occidental could make a a little over a billion dollars  a year... in revenue, not even profit?

That's crazy.  And that's not even counting the fact that the chinese have sicne bought in on western contracts, taking over parts of it that aren't even listed their for oil, because Iraqi contracts are some of the stingiest least profitable oil contracts out there.

As can be seen by the fact that Exxon has been trying everything it can to sell it's stake an pull out.

It tried to in 2012 with no buyers.

and sold some to China... who again, is the real dominant force, as it holds many deals with the companies who "won" and hold stakes in those oil fields unshown.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/19c128a2-5818-11e3-a2ed-00144feabdc0.html#axzz2u4GDQwzL

The claim that the US Went to iraq for oil is total fiction, and is proven by the facts in no matter what direction you wish to spin it.

Ok, so that's twice you've tried to strawman me.  I'll say one more time, my argument is that the article I linked makes a better case that the Iraq war was about oil than you are making that it was not.

Here's another link - it makes a stronger case than anything you've said so far too.  It seems Republicans agree that the war was about oil.

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/03/top-republican-leaders-say-iraq-war-was-really-for-oil.html

I'd like to believe you but the weight of evidence is not in your favour.

Let's just call this a day.  Clearly you think you're making a compelling case, while I think otherwise.  Enjoy the rest of your weekend.