Which flop makes you sadder: Wii U or Vita?

[DolPhanTendo]

Mummelmann said:

DolPhanTendo said:
I don't understand how you can call the WiiU a flop? Its only been out a year and 2 months. The PS3 did miserable the first year. Would you call it a flop now? Vita has been out 2 years so they are closer to be called a flop. 3 years os what you need to know that question.

The PS3 was at 10.3 million lifetime in the same time frame as the Wii U now, and people did call that a flop daily on these very forums, it was also up about 40-50% yoy in Q1 of the second year, despite Q1 the year before seeing the relatively large European launch, this lack of natural growth for the Wii U is worrying and suggests that there quite simply isn't a very large audience for it. In February 2015, some users will point out that; "its been out only two years and three months, it's way too soon to call anything." Everyone seems to agree that the Vita is a massive failure, for reference; it was at about 4.65 million in a similar time frame in its life, about one million behind the Wii U. If someone throws the word "flop" around a bit, it's kind of hard not to agree that it is warranted at this point, especially seeing the sales being more or less flat yoy, the mandatory second year rise appears to be elusive as of yet, and even with a resurgence in spring and near the holidays, it will take quite some time to catch the flop by consensus: the PS Vita, and that tells us something. Besides; as people rightfully did with the PS3 vs PS2, when you view these numbers in context with the predecessor (Wii), it's kind of hard not to resort to the word "flop".

If there's something that is hard to understand on vgchartz, it has to be one month old users managing posts like this (and it happens all the time);

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6070613

You appear to have a highly personal stake in the console wars, don't take it so seriously, it won't affect you in any kind of way at any rate.

I guess you dont follow economics. During the last gen we had the great boom for 2 reasons. Economies were doing well here in the U.S. and my genreration who grew up from the start of home consoles (NES) were in their mid to late 20's. That means families not yet started and money to spend. Where would that money go? Hmmmmm... To sit there and try to rebuttal an arguement with a comparison of 7-8 years ago is prettty much a swing a miss. I only compared the PS3 in the time frame and what people were saying about that console at the same time. To call a console a flop in the 1st year of sales in a bad economic haze is wrong. We are supposed to learn from history not disregard it.