PlayStation 4 Launched in Japan!

[ninetailschris]

lucidium said:

ninetailschris said:

"WiiU was poorly placed in Japan, with many customers getting their Nintendo fix on the 3DS after its sales had improved.

3DS launch in Japan was terrible, just as it was everywhere else in the world because early support was borderline nonexistant, and the media had run with stories of kids getting headaches and/or seizures from the 3D screen for weeks prior to its launch."

Psst, 3DS was doing fine when the WiiU first launched, hence my comment, you misunderstood it entirely.

"Vita launched with a high price and against the relative success of the thriving (in japan) PSP that not only had an expansive library but cheaper games"

if I didn't read this clearly.. couldn't I just replace psp with ps3 and vita with ps4? Exactly. Ps4 has literally no games if you already own a ps3. Well no relevant games. 

PlayStation 3 games cost the same in Japan as PS4 games, in addition to this, the Vita was also contending with the now-successful 3DS too, What home console is the PS4 contending with exactly?, You can say PS3 if you want but a large portion of the PlayStation fans in Japan are looking for something new.

"For all of the Nintendo systems, advertising in stores, on TV and on the streets was also virtually non existant, so the demographic most likely to buy it did not understand what the product even was."

Not for 3ds.

Oh im sorry, I didnt know you were the same as me and have spent the last half of you life actually LIVING HERE.
Advertising for the 3DS in Japan was almost non-existant when it launched, there were no train station ads, very few TV commercials, very little magazine space, very little coverage on TV.

"The huge difference here is that the entire country has seen the success of the PS4 elsewhere, and the media has nothing but praise for the console, with extensive advertising in every store, on the streets, in subway car displays, on TV and radio."

That is probably the biggest hyperbole statement ever. The entire country doesn't know or even care about the ps4. Heck not even the USA cares that much. It's success in other countries has nothing to do with it's success in Japan. The determines the success in a Japan is games and where the market is going. Mobile systems are the future as Japan as already spoke. Even in ps3 best days it was selling anywhere near the handhelds. That's ds and psp. Advertising isn't going to change that. The games that relevant are locked on handheld.

TV shows here are very patriotic, as are magazines, they have been bragging about the success of the PS4 in countries outside of Japan since the day it was launched, many of the large electronics stores have been taking advantage of it with signs such as "best selling console worldwide" and "1m sold in america in a single day", the hype is here and the hype is real, sorry to burst your bubble.

"But hey, don't take my word for it, see for yourself in a week when the sales are in."

After seeing bandai comments it seems like even he sees it's fate. Bandai knows more about the market than you or some friend that's excited. When says come, I will be back to say I was wrong or right.

And if I am wrong you will get a full apology, however I suspect you will be the one saying you were wrong.

My prediction still stands at 400-650k ish.

"PlayStation 3 games cost the same in Japan as PS4 games, in addition to this, the Vita was also contending with the now-successful 3DS too, What home console is the PS4 contending with exactly?, You can say PS3 if you want but a large portion of the PlayStation fans in Japan are looking for something new."

I don't think you realize that the games that small tier and mid tier are going to be on mobile and handheld. If you don't think this will effect the system than your blinding yourself to the facts. The vita which will have more third party support in Japan on a regular base is already showing a shocking future for the system. You also fail to see that developers that make japanese only games are not going jump on board a lower install base with high cost than go moblie or handheld. Most of the studios that were there on ps2 are on those very systems. The 3ds was able to out sell the ps3 in 2 years, it should be obvious it's a end of a era in Japan. There being no wii (which is a bad argument because the userbase was very different from your average hardcore gamer) is not going to change that. Replace wii with moblie and your in a worst position.

"Oh im sorry, I didnt know you were the same as me and have spent the last half of you life actually LIVING HERE.

Advertising for the 3DS in Japan was almost non-existant when it launched, there were no train station ads, very few TV commercials, very little magazine space, very little coverage on TV. "

I read and asked japanese friends,there was a good amount on commercials based on reports. Maybe the channels were not the you were watching. I see no point in further arguing now it would be 'he said she said.'  Magazine and train station ads, hardly determine sales because I remember bayonetta having that and it barely sold 130,000. 

"TV shows here are very patriotic, as are magazines, they have been bragging about the success of the PS4 in countries outside of Japan since the day it was launched, many of the large electronics stores have been taking advantage of it with signs such as "best selling console worldwide" and "1m sold in america in a single day", the hype is here and the hype is real, sorry to burst your bubble."

How are those Sony phones doing in comparison to apple? Every time I watch a tv show from Japan there always showing Sony products from phones to tvs. The patriotic argument is tired old argument, whenever someone wants to say it will sell just based on home country. Again you are ignoring trends of the market by arguing "well they put out a sign that said "best selling worldwide." That's not going to change the whole market and trends. The market isn't going to completely change because a sign is saying "best selling worldwide." People who moved on to mobile or handheld are not going to stop and say to themselves "wow, I can have all the games I want on my moblie device or handheld and I can play on train to work but because this sign says selling best worldwide, I'm going to buy a console now instead for games I don't care as much about and be stuck to my room!" You are confusing hype with a store trying to sell a product. Hype was animal crossing. Overwhelming demand and ps4 based on reports is no near that level of demand.

Side note:If you look at the ps3 software sales there barely any games to have actually hit a million. Adding to my point of lack of intrest in console games. 

Just wanted to say that is just a discussion on video games. I hope I didn't come off as insulting as my goal was only to disagree based on my own view points. I had a fun discussion.