Debunking the Myth that Next Gen Consoles are too weak

[freedquaker]

lucidium said:

Shinobi-san said:

One question here Lucidium...where did you get those stats about average gamers and mainstream pc's from? Did you use steam stats?

Identifying the number of low end laptops by the frequency of their onboard GPUS then removing the low end laptops from the calculation results in a more accurate picture of PC averages.

As i have been trying to get through to him, steam stats are heavily skewed by the number of people that install steam on their laptops regardless of if their laptop is powerful enough, many do so for little games or old games, and many do so just to buy games during sales while away from home, or to chat to friends.

Yes yes, I get that, and I do agree. But you're missing the point. You're also dismissing the very information that, gamer or not, the average PC cannot hold a candle to the performance of PS4. But screw that, all that doesn't matter! This is not exactly a race against the PC, which you can never win. This is more to do with the relative performance of consoles with respect to PCs.

Look, this is not a matter of "conflicting opinions".... this is a matter of "conflicting perspectives". You're looking at it the wrong way...

The PCs can be infinitely better than Consoles, to no use... We have a certain high end resolution and frame rate. Going beyond is of no use to anyone on a console. The point here is that PS4, with respect to high end PCs today, is in a much better spot than PS3 was against the high end PCs of its era.

When PS3 was released, most games were already using more than 256 MB + 256 MB RAM, and single threaded performance was way better than PS4's Cell (without the help from extra processors). Its GPU was crippled from the get go. So most PC games had to be downsized and sacrificied in quality. Even years later, PS3 ports never look as good as their PC ports. The difference between PC and PS4 ports, on the other hand is minimal.

Yes, PCs will always have an edge;

a) will be able play games on resolutions over 1080p but most TVs don't support that

b) will be able to sustain 60 fps more often, but the perceived impact is much less subtle.

c) yes, high end PCs will possibly have better AA, a bit more refined detail etc, but that's it.

d) more RAM (than 5 GB) will not utilized for a long time in games

e) PS4 will always have more stable drivers, with better CPU utilizations, and customization.

 

so when you look at this way, the performance gap between Playstation and the PC had never been this small, and playstation had never been this capable compared to the competition of its era. So, no, PS4 is not a weak console at all. XB1 could have been nearly as good if only they had taken the right decisions with the RAM bandwidth and architecture.