Debunking the Myth that Next Gen Consoles are too weak

[freedquaker]

lucidium said:

freedquaker said:

The CPU performance has never been the bottleneck on the consoles! So having a much faster CPU is mostly useless on a console.

Having spent much of the late 2000's juggling between quality and performance in developing games, I will say this much, CPUs bottlenecked advanced physics and AI all the freaking time, it took a couple years to get there but once we did, it became a pain in the ass, it will take a few years for this generation of consoles to hit the cpu ceiling, but they will.

freedquaker said:

You say, Consoles have 5 GB RAM available, and do you think PCs can allocate all of their RAM to the games? The mainstream PC, for which most games are designed today, have 4-6 GB RAM

PCs can allocate the entirity of its video ram to a game, and the entirity of unused system ram too, the average PC will only be using around 2-3gb of its ram for system-required resources at any given time if the only thing a person is doing is playing games, even less if you dont leave your browser open with a tonne of tabs.

Games DO use system ram as well as vram, data is loaded in to system memory for faster access from the GPU, and for games with open worlds streaming of the environment is done from system ram to vram when needed, the reason why games do not use vram heavilly is because that system ram is there to stream from, consoles have to do it all from whatever they have.

freedquaker said:

 and NOT ONE SINGLE GAME uses more than 3 GB of it.

Oh? not a single game over 3GB you say?

 

First I was referring to the system RAM. We all should know that games usually require a substantial amount of VRAM for resolutions over 1080p, especially with AA enabled. But you know what, PS4 has 8GB GDDR5, so it's not a problem for PS4, but it IS a problem for 95% of the PCs out there, hello! You're not ignoring the fact that This generation is the most relatively abundant generation and has more RAM than the majority of PCs out there, do you? Just take a look at the STEAM Survey (which is biased towards gamers, who have more than average RAM), you'll see that the average RAM is 6GB, and the Median RAM is 4 GB. SO PS4 has more than or equal to RAM as 88% of Steam Users, but probably 95% of all PC Users.

Second, CPU is always a bottleneck when it comes to the AI and Physics, and this is where the parallelization & GPGPU come into play! So if developers want it, it's there to be utilized, otherwise, nobody seems to be using it. AI is mostly a software issue, we just don't have a real program routine to write genuine AI, instead of just faking it.