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Hynad on 19 February 2014
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osed125 said:
Hynad said:
osed125 said:

If that were true, then why is the PS4 selling well? In terms of gameplay and controls, the PS4 and it's games do nothing new, all it has is better visuals.


It's not just against the competition that it needs to differentiate itself. It needs to differentiate itself from the Wii as well. People don't see the most powerful gaming console on the market right now when they see the Wii U. Because it's not. They see an update to a console that has delivered the same content not so long ago. 

I love Nintendo. I love my Wii U. But it's library of games right now, as well as the one coming soon is nothing but updates from games that were released not so long ago on the Wii. Hardcore Nintendo fans won't complain about that, because for the most part, that's what they expect from Nintendo. But people on the fence? They'll go for the slighly more expensive console because it offers a better promise for the future. Nintendo needs to differentiate themselves from that with content that's unique to the Wii U. Not only unique to Nintendo. That was already the case with the Wii, and people already played those games. SM3DW is to me the best Mario game since... ever. But it's also very similar to SM3DL on the 3DS. DKCTF looks excellent, but it's mostly an HD update to DKCR. Mario Kart? Same... 

They need something new and fresh. Not just HD updates. That's my take on it. You're free to disagree.

I do somewhat agree with you. 

But why does Nintendo need to differentiate with themselves but other companies don't? I mean Killzone: SF is the same as Killzone 3 with better graphics. AC IV is the same as the previous ones, heck is even on the PS360. Call of Duty: Ghost, same old story. The only "new" thing that comes to mind is Knack, and if we go by popular opinions, is a very sub-par game.

The industry has shown that consumers don't care when things are the same, so why is Nintendo any different? the only explanation I can come up with is that graphics are more important that gameplay, which as a gamer, makes me very sad.

It may also be that the appeal of their games is slowly waning. The fact that they've relied on the same franchises for so long, compared to the other developers who refresh themselves every now and then (Ubi, for example, went from Prince of Persia for the 6th gen, to Assassin's creed for the 7th, and are now going for Watchdog for the 8th. Or Sony, keeping things fresh with regular new IPs, like Uncharted, The Order 1886, Starhawk, etc... While still bringing in fan favourites).

I think they need to go broader and try to cater to an older audience. They're all family friendly all the time. Metroid and Xenoblade are about the only franchises they have that's catering to an E audience. As fun as their games are, most gamers enjoy some gritty and raw games from time to time. I can enjoy a good Disney movie from time to time, but I'm not going to exclusively  watch their movies. I need something more serious with different atmospheres too from time to time. 

I don't know... It seems to me that Nintendo has just been complacent for way too long now. And it's catching up to them now.