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Sevengen said:

alright, decent enough points, but...... do any of those things you listed come packed with every system from day one?
No.
and that would be why 'those' are considered peripherals and in my opinion the Kinect should not.
The Xbox One was designed to use the Kinect, it's included with every system sold.
Not a peripheral.
We just disagree. Peace.


You can argue its very important to MS vision, and would be nice if MS would start to share more of that vision with us.

But you cant argue its a peripheral unless you first change the definition of the word Peripheral. 

But of course feel free to be excited about it and talk about the stuff it can do and what its going to do in the future, but dont try and argue black is white.