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thekitchensink said:
FinalEvangelion said:
Legend11 said:
I'm always impressed when there's a game that surprises you by how good looking it is compared to other games in it's genre in the past.

What I do find annoying though is that I remember during the SNES days seeing many Nintendo fans putting down the Genesis because of it's graphics and now with the Wii suddenly some are trying to convince everyone that "graphics don't really matter". Bull... And it's not just graphics that the more powerful machines have, it's the ability to have better AI and Physics as well as better graphics.

I have no doubts that if the Wii was as powerful as the 360 and PS3 that some of it's fans would be posting comparison pictures, gushing over graphics, etc, just like people do on other systems.

I actually do have to agree with alot of this post here. Last generation, Nintendo fanboys touting their Gamecube graphics to Sony fanboys. This generation, the Nintendo fanboys just say it doesn't matter at all (what a change in personal opinion company loyalty can do).

 

I always do get tired of the "gameplay vs. graphics" argument, as if they are mutually exclusive. It's the gaming experience, which sometimes includes both. For example, I don't think I could get the cliff-hanging adrenaline rush in Uncharted without the realistic graphics.


 

I understand what you're saying, but don't you think you're ignoring just one little detail? Do you honestly think that people would be having such a positive reaction to Wii if Nintendo had only released a slightly more powerful GameCube? It would have probably sold 10 million lifetime and been their last console. They are showing us that new ways to play are just as or more important than good graphics.

Don't get me wrong, great graphics can greatly enhance the experience (read my Gears of War post), but yours and Legend's jab at Nintendo fans is quite naive.


 I was talking about Fanboys (people absolutely loyal to the company under any circumstance).  This generation, Sony fanboys are all about the graphics and Nintendo fanboys are all about the controller.  Not every single person that buys a Wii is a fanboy.  Heck, I recently bought a Wii, and I'm enjoying games like MP3, but I like my 360 and PS3 much better.

 

Much like there are games that have great graphics and awful gameplay (like Lair), there are quite a few Wii games that just tack on motion controls rather than provide good gameplay.  Just as shiny graphics don't make a game good, motion controls don't automatically make a game good as well.



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