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vivster said:
small44 said:
vivster said:
thismeintiel said:
vivster said:
Way too early to call. There probably won't be a 2:1 at the end of the gen. Probably not even 1.5:1.

Really?  So if the PS4 sells 115M, you expect the One to sell ~82M?  Ain't going to happen.  I think right now, since it won't have near the success in EU or Japan as the 360, the One is looking at maybe 60-65M.

I don't really expect the PS4 to sell more than 100 million.

90 million vs 65 million sounds good to me. But that's probably still too high for both.

These numbers only count though if PS4/X1 don't find a way to tap into the casual market like last gen.

Do you consider games like Call of duty casuals games if yes ,can you tell me why those casuals won't buy a ps4 for theirs favorites games.

I mean the casual casuals. Those that bought the consoles just for the motion controls and party games which is a huge chunk of sales of last gen because it was new and exciting. Also the same people that made up a good chunk of PS2's late sales.

Unless they bring out something new and exciting they won't draw that crowd and only tap into the hardcore market which is a number smaller than what we've seen last gen.

But best selling games on ps2 are hardcore game casuals wasn't big in the day of ps2 i doubt there are a lot casual who buy bought a ps2,even on ps3 casuals games sold poorly compared to casuals games on wii and xbox360.



PS4 - over 100 millions let's say 120m
Xbox One - 70m
Wii U - 25m

Vita - 15m if it will not get Final Fantasy Kingdoms Heart and Monster Hunter 20m otherwise
3DS - 80m