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Kasz216 said:
Lone_Canis_Lupus said:
Kasz216 said:
Lone_Canis_Lupus said:
smbu2000 said:
Lone_Canis_Lupus said:
Cheebee said:
That's kinda childish. :p
I noticed this too:

'DualShock 3
Announced after the failure of the 'Sixaxis' PS3 controller. After previously stating 'Rumble was last-gen' and 'Rumble wouldn't work in a motion-sensing controller', Sony ate their own words and once again copied Nintendo. They released this slightly updated version of their 'last-gen' controller, much to the amusement of the entire gaming world, and once again proving Sony reps are not to be taken too seriously.'

:p

Why is everyone taking a low blow about the "no-rumble" when I've seen so many Nintendo fanboys going "Z0MG!! S0NY C0P13D RUMB13!!" in the PS2 generation...my friends were STILL hung up on that when vibration had pretty much become a standard. Also, Sony didn't take out rumble because "it was last-gen", it was because of legal issues with Immersion. Did people miss this memo? When Immersion SUED Sony AND Microsoft?

I'm sure you'd be pissed if you were sued as well. They were probably just like "Forget it, we'll worry about it later, rumble isn't needed." Plus, things change. You think because they made the rumble and sixaxis possible with each other, they were lieing before? That's like saying it's impossible to improve a car to have more horsepower with time and work of a company that specializes with vehicles. Rome wasn't built in a day, ways to do things previously thought impossible come about.

Sony did say that though. In an interview with Phil Harrison early last year:

http://www.gamedaily.com/articles/features/phil-harrison-we-are-under-no-pressure-to-drop-ps3s-price/70094/?biz=1

BIZ: A lot of gamers, including myself, enjoy the controller's motion sensing at times, but we still miss rumble. If gamers want it and are vocal enough, will Sony reintroduce the force feedback at some point?

PH: We have no plans to do so in the standard controller that ships with PlayStation 3. I believe that the Sixaxis controller offers game designers and developers far more opportunity for future innovation than rumble ever did. Now, rumble I think was the last generation feature; it's not the next-generation feature. I think motion sensitivity is. And we don't see the need to do that. Having said that, there will be specific game function controllers, potentially like steering wheels that do include vibration or feedback function—not from us but from third parties.

 


I didn't say that it wasn't said, I was just saying the Immersion suit was probably the main reason they didn't go with rumble. I'm just pointing out that people are misinformed about this whole rumble thing. You can't say after getting sued by Immersion by having rumble in their controllers that it had nothing to do with it.


That's actually worse. That they lied directly to the consumers... then didn't even stay consistant with the lie.

You gotta stick to your lies. Look at OJ. It worked for him.


It's bad that they based their decision on a financial issue rather than an emotional one? Companies don't remove a feature because they feel it is "last-gen". Companies don't make decisions based on emotion. They make their decisions based on what the consumer wants or the money the company has to blow. If a company does something because they want to, are you really going to trust that company much?

It's better to have a company that doesn't appeal to emotion and makes logical decisions. It was a legal and financial issue at the time, now it isn't and they're bringing rumble in. Make sense? Plus, it's the cold hard truth, companies lie. Including Nintendo and Microsoft, no major company is completely honest. They all try to hide things, every company is corrupted to some point.


It's bad because they directly lied about it to the consumer. Rather then saying "We're not putting it in because it's a last gen feature."

Had they said "The current sixaxis controller does not have rumble due to a lawsuit."

As such they should get ragged on about it. As should any other companies that get caught in their lies. Most companies also don't outright lie. They spin. Which is different, and bad, though not as bad.


 When did Phil Harrison say that they're removing rumble because it's a "last-gen feature? When did Phil Harrison represent all of Sony? All Phil Harrison said was "Now, rumble I think was the last generation feature; it's not the next-generation feature." Where in there did Phil Harrison ever say "We're removing rumble because we think it's a last-gen feature."?

 All he said was what he believed and what he thought. No where in there did they say why they removed rumble. He just answered the question on whether they would be introducing rumble or not to the system in the future and continued on with his thoughts on the rumble versus the Six-Axis. Phil Harrison addresses his thoughts on the matter and everybody goes insane like that was the reason Sony removed the rumble? That is kind of silly. Why they removed rumble wasn't mentioned, just what Phil Harrison thought about it.



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