oniyide said: so we going to keep making excuses and ignore that PS4 and xone, two consoles that JUST released have a higher percentage than Wii U? Sounds about right.
When you take your time to actually THINK about it then yes it does sound right.
Its not nintendos fault PS3 owners buy PS2 games (after they have lost the backwards compatiblity) for full price. So dont expect Nintendo Wiiu owners to buy PS360 ports that look even worse than on those 2 consoles that have 24FPS that are missing gamemodes that will never get DLC and are made by people that actually INSULT the userbase (like EA does or that Darksiders2 def etc)
I mean would you buy Watchdogs on PS4 if it would be 1024x576 25fps when the game on PS3 would have FREE online would run in 1280x720 with 30FPS? Just because the devs could not be bothered to optimize the game? No? Then dont expect WiiU owners to buy PS360 games like Batman that run at 25fps either especially when they are LATE ports that cost $10 on top of the PS360 price.
Not everyone has lost the sense for VALUE like mainstreamers have (maybe they never had it to begin with). I mean there were people that bought Castlevania on 360 and it drops to 12FPS..... ints not like gameplay is important to games right? Its only about the visuals ........
This whole point is just dumb. Rayman Legends runs fine on Wii U and ACIV looks and runs better than PS360.
1. How is it dumb? AC4 runs like shit on WiiU you should educate yourself before you say it runs FINE. Plus why would I want to buy an inferior version? Ubisoft lost a WiiU sale with its "PS3 gets exclusive content bullshit." They either make the PS3 version more expensive or the other versions cheaper. (because the additional content has nothing to do with the console specific features but its just a fucking "contract" decision between Ubi and Sony THIS IS CONSUMER UNFRIENDLY SHIT like retailer exclusive preorder bonus etc.)
Take a look at how FINE it runs on WiiU okay?
yup 18 FPS is fine....
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2. Rayman sold best on WiiU despite the delay and the small userbase. People lost interest in Rayman because its nothing special anymore (exlusivity is special) and I was looking forward to it and what happened? I was disappointed. I mean why would I want to wait 7 months when I want to play it now?
I thought to myself "well when I have to wait 7 months I can wait another 6 months to get it on PS3 360 WiiU or PC whichever drops to 5-15 bucks first because as smart as third parties are its either "success during first 3 months" or "failure" this mentality and it being multiplat helps devaluing it which makes a price cut even more likely.
3. I will still buy it but I will never pay more than 15 bucks for it. One of the most annoying things to me is the feeling I got ripped off when I buy something just to see it on sale a month later. Thats why I buy Nintendo games day1 (because they almost never drop in price. They start to do it tho which makes me hesitate) and for third parties wait 6+ months until the price is somewhat stable. or until the GOTY edition is out.
So how is it a dumb point?
Another example I LOVE BORDERLANDS 1+2. Its one of my favorite series. I have it on PC (since I always buy my third party multiplats on PC unless they run great on console (30+FPS) and have console specific features. I also prefer PC because if its fucked up on PC the community can fix it + MOD support+ cheaper)
Even tho I love Borderlands 2 I waited for the GOTY edition (because I bought BL1 vanilla and felt ripped off when the GOTY came out) but since the GOTY edition of BL2 dropped in price super fast and appearantly GOTY does not mean EVERYTHING INCLUDED anymore I felt ripped off again and now I will wait for BL3 GOTY edition to come out AND to drop in price. I see no reason for this "price penalty"for early adopters. This has not much to do with me paying alot of money but with others getting the same for less it is a problem of fairness. Its simply a matter of principle.
Nintendo games do better because they are polished, feel complete and keep their price(value). I dont mind when my $50-60 game gets a price drop in 5 years. But I hate to see games 90% cheaper within 1 year. I have a huge backlog so most of the time I didnt even start the game before its 50% off.
1. You are also a PC gamer so you understand how bottlenecks work. You can thank Nintendos enginneers who thought a 1.2GHz tri core CPU with a core architecture thats over a decade old was a good idea for those framerate drops. You can talk about Nintendos games running at 60fps but we both know not a single one of them is CPU intensive in the slightest. Again, you are a PC gamer so you know how this works so dont play the lazy card. I base this on Black OPs II which was a choppy unplayable mess on my old 2.0GHz Pentium Dual core, and smooth as slik on a 3.6GHz quad with the same GPU and RAM
The Wii Us GPU is supposedly more powerful than the previous HD twins so logic dictates that we get higher framerates, higher resolutions or incredibly good shader effects but we get none of the above. Even Nintendos first partys use art and conventional techniques (by 360/PS3 standards) to look good while being bound to 720p. Nintendo has only released one semi photorealstic game on the WiiU Pikmin 3 and even that runs at 720p30fps despite originally being planned as a Wii game, that alone should tell you something.
Furthermore, PS Exclusive content didnt stop the X1 and 360 versions of AC4 from doing repectibly anyway.
2. Rayman Legends sold best on the PS3. After certain milestones install base cannot be used to predict sales. Just because Melee sold on 7 million units on the Cube doesnt mean Brawl will sell 35 million units on the Wii. Despite this its clear that consumers on the X1 and PS4 are a more viable target than those on the WiiU will ever be.
3. You might have a point here, but it only applies to the most hardcore gamers. Most are fine with the Vanilla game experience, doesnt stop hundreds of thousands to millions of consumers from buying games day one or full price on the other system regardless.
I predict that the Wii U will sell a total of 18 million units in its lifetime.
