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Landguy said:
Normchacho said:
Untamoi said:
Normchacho said:

People still seems to forget that MS is one of most profitable companies of the world and they still have around 100 billion in cash. Heck, MS makes more money than Google and around as much as Apple. 1 billion loss might be a lot for Sony but it is nothing for MS.

You have to remember that Xbox brand was never profitable during its first 5 years and MS still didn't abandon it (losses were only around 3 billion). And now MS is even more profitable and with more cash than ever.

First off, MS doesn't make "around as much as Apple". Apple pulls in more than twice the revenue MS does and nearly three times the profit. They also don't have anything like $100 billion in cash. The company as a whole has just over $100 billion in total assests as of the end of 2013.

The Xbox brand is still losing money year after year for Microsoft and it doesn't matter if the company is doing well. Shareholders would flip out if MS announced that just after 3 months of being on the market they decided to cut the legs off of the best chance the brand has to finally start making money by going from a small loss to a large one.

Microsoft can't just keep the Xbox brand because they feel like it with no sign of it becoming a profitable venture.


THe Xbox division has been profitable since 2008.  I would have to check the rest of your facts, but based on that alone, I won't bother.


Yes my mistake, but there has been concern about whether MS has been using Android royalties to hide loses in the Xbox division. On top of that the Xbox division is expect to lose over a billion dollars this year even with the 2 billion in profit generated by the royalties.

I'll save you the trouble of checking the rest of my facts, the links for them are here:

Apple 2013 revenue and profit: http://venturebeat.com/2013/10/28/apples-170-billion-2013-amazing-and-amazingly-forgettable/

Microsoft 2012 profit, revenue, assests, market value:  http://www.forbes.com/global2000/list/#page:1_sort:0_direction:asc_search:microsoft_filter:All%20industries_filter:All%20countries_filter:All%20states

Apple 2012 profit, revenue, assests, market value: http://www.forbes.com/global2000/list/#page:1_sort:0_direction:asc_search:Apple_filter:All%20industries_filter:All%20countries_filter:All%20states

Microsoft total assests: https://www.microsoft.com/investor/EarningsAndFinancials/Financials/FY14/Q2/BalanceSheets.aspx

Feel free to let me know if I missed anything.



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