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JazzB1987 on 11 February 2014
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jlmurph2 said:
JazzB1987 said:

well behaving like they did with Rayman Legends sure does not help. I mean what do they expect?
It takes a whole generation to gain trust you lost because of bad business practices and so far they dont even try they just say they try.

If the whole WiiU gen gets constant quality support then the next system might have the chance to be very profitable. They should know that they will not really have good sales during the next 5 years because of the way they handle Nintendo systems.

I mean do they think that delaying a finished game for half a year and cutting modes in other games etc will help the sceptical Nintendo fanbase to buy more Ubisoft games? Third party is dumber than I thought.


Oh god please stop with the excuses, Ubisoft isn't some kid that was bad at school. Its the Nintendo fans' fault for not supporting 3rd party. Now its starting to look like Wii U is about to lose yet another publisher and end up as a secondary console. Gamers want games, and if Wii U doesn't support them then this is what happens. BS hardware sales.

WRONG gamers do NOT want games.  Gamers do want good games.  Mainstreamers want games.  Its up to you if you want to be a gamer or mainstreamer. I certainly dont want to be a mainstreamer.

I would have bought Rayman legends full price  because it would have supported the WiiU and because it would have come out during a time with no software.  Also having it as an exclusive would have made it something special.

But first they hype the game make gamers want it and then they go FUCK YOU WAIT ANOTHER 6 MONTHS K? THANKS!  Completely disappointing customers that wanted the game. Also making it multiplat with their stupid "no sales during first 3 months = failure" kid mentality  devalued the game.  So why buy it on WiiU day1 when you were already forced to wait 6 months? Because everything gets devalued on PS360 superfast makes it a no brainer to wait another few months and then get it on PS3 360 or WiiU for 20 bucks. (WiiU price will fall because the pricing has to be competitive)

TBH what third party is there to support?  NFS was a good port yes but EA is a shit company that actually insults customers and then expects them to buy their games? Seriously real gamers are not that stupid...

Let me give you a short summary of most of the third party stuff on Wii and WiiU:

Wii gets on rails resident evil instead of real one (GC had the amazing 4 so why not Wii?)  = NO THANKS
Wii gets on rails version of Dragon Quest  = NO THANKS
Wii gets Dragon Quest 10  but it is an MMO = NO THANKS
Wii gets on rails version of Dead Space  = NO THANKS
Wii gets Third party AAA games like COD look worse than GC games (lighting etc) = NO THANKS
Wii gets lazy PS2 ports with no effort put into them etc = NO THANKS
Wii gets good games like RedSteel but third party cant be bothered to fix the frustrating controls  = NO THANKS

WiiU third party launch prices were $70€  = NO THANKS
WiiU gets  MassEffect3 while the others get the trilogy for the same price  = NO THANKS
WiiU gets choppy 20 FPS ports = NO THANKS (framerate is key to gameplay visuals are not!)
WiiU gets version that lacks game modes = NO THANKS
WiiU version does not get additional content/support = NO THANKS
WiiU gets late port of archaic game for full/ almost full price = NO THANKS (really DeusEx instead of TombRaider? lol)
WiiU gets FULL HD COD games where FULL HD somehow means 720p = NO THANKS (stupid liars)

How to do it?
WiiU gets great version of Sonic Allstars Racing Transformed = YES PLEASE
WiiU gets great version of DarkSiders 2 = YES PLEASE  (360 version sold 7x more even tho it had ~30-40x the userbase)

TBH When "harcore" gamers are allowed to whine about Dante having a new haircut in DMC. A haircut that makes it impossible for them to buy the game... then please let Nintendo gamers decide whether or not to spend money on subpar products that lack features and have real flaws okay? Thank you.


And yes Ubisoft(and most western devs because of their shitty "short-term-profit/money mad shareholders) is a kid that was bad at school or how do you think they come up with shit like that?
"ZombiU with its 630k (thats just retail not digital) was not even close at being profitable"  Did they expect the game to sell 1.5-2m? LOOL? HAHAHA

But then they say
"We expect Watchdogs to sell around 6million copies" They will NEVER expect a game to just break even so 6m equals profit.

Okay so:
A low budget single platform launch game with NO marketing has to sell at least 1,5-2m on a console with a launch userbase of 0 (every platform starts with 0 users)
But
A high budget AAA multiplatform title with alot of marketing just needs 6m on 80m PS3s, 80m 360s,  almost 6m WiiUs (thats obviously 6m more than at launch), more than 5m PS4s and 3.4m XONEs. Keep in mind that when WatchDogs comes out there will be even more PS360s and Ps4X1s out there.  

This for me = LOL OKAAAAAAAAAAAAY.....if you say so....


(western) Third party IS just stupid. I mean why can a small team create HAWKEN and back in the day FarCry was made by just a handful of people from Germany? In 2004 FarCry was the best looking game (which is impossible because everyone knows that visuals cost at least 892893892839239 dollars right?)

No game needs a 30m dollar budget its just bullshit visuals here visuals there and then they have so great visuals the game runs with 12 FPS (Castlevania on 360).

They should learn how to economize then they wont need a low budget title to sell 3m to be profitable and as a result of that wont have the excuse of profitability.

Also why buy a $70 WiiU game or a $60 PS360 game when 1 year later the same game is on steam for $5? With MOD support!

P.S. I am a gamer NOT a pure Nintendo fanboy.  I have more PS3s than Nintendo home consoles combined :)