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Jay520 said:
TheLastStarFighter said:
Well, I'd never get into that situation in reality. I've never seen a man to woman transformation that I couldn't spot. I'm an extremely observant person when it comes to features, expressions and habits. Women have many subtle cues beyond boobs, pussy and (lack of) body hair that say they're a woman. Eye shape, jaw shape, hips, shoulder ratio, arm motion, Adam's apple (obviously), leg motion, smell... ways of communicating, expressions... they are all distinct and consistent to women and I've never seen a man copy it accurately, regardless of surgery or hormones. Even if in a photo it can be masked, in person it's obvious. A true give away is voice, as a woman's voice is processed by the areas of a man's brain that processes music while a man's voice is understood by the part that handles math. It doesn't matter if it's a high pitched man or low pitched woman.


You can't really know that. Of course you've never seen a man-to-woman transformation that you couldn't spot...because you didn't spot it. You have only seen the ineffective transformations. There's no reason to believe there aren't tons of perfect transformation. So there's no reason for you to believe plenty of apparent females you saw weren't actually transvestites.

You can't really know that I can't.  There is reason to believe there are tons of non-perfect transformations.  When I see a transformation which alters the shape of a man's forhead, eyebrows, jaw, cheeks, neck, shoulders, hips (size, shape, ratio), the spacing between legs... and when I see a man accurately reproduce a woman's natural communication methods and reactions, when their voice sound frequency can be altered, when they smell differently I may think that I might be able to be fooled.  But as it stands, science isn't able to do those things effectively.

Many men that have their bodies altered to look like women are slight or a bit "feminine" to begin with, and they are often thin to give the illusion of having a hip-to-waste ratio similar to a woman's.  For me this doesn't work, it still doesn't look like a woman's hips.  As I said, I'm extremely observent... and I also really like very feminine woman.  If her hips didn't have the proper amount of "swell" to them, I probably wouldn't have talked to her in the first place.