dyremose said:
bucky1965 said:
ArnoldRimmer said:
bucky1965 said:
I guess WW2 was just a pipe dream.
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Bad example. Very much unlike what hollywood movies suggest, WW2 was a war that the US was hardly even involved in. And that is also the reason why they were indeed the big "winners" of WW2 - they waited until all other countries had already pretty much ruined each other before entering the war. That way, they kept their casualties and expenses extremely low.
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I guess it would have been better to let Hitler control all of Europe. And Japan all of Asia. Silly me.
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although formally at war on the axis powers since 1941, the US millitary to the war was really just limited to japan. by then the chinese had fought the japanese to a stalemate. the only reason the US even joined the war was because Japan attacked them first. the united states had done everything up to that point to stay out of the conflict and on the europe front all they did was send materials and provide limited war assets. then by 1944 germany was severely weakened from 5 years of war and was being pushed back by soviet forces. it was the perfect time to strike since everyone knew that the war was already won. it required a minimal of logistics since the Uk was still fighting and so had a base of operations for the US to use. not only that but american troops in western europe only accunted for about half as both Uk and canadian soldiers also participated (yet you never hear about that) the two sides in this was that suffered to most casualties was with out a doubt Russia and germany. US role was merely to shorten the war by forcing germany to divide its reinforcements to two fronts. do not be disilusional about their role. hitler would have lost undoubtedly and it isnt even certain that japan would have won since the UK armies in india hadnt yet intervened to help china. something that would definitely have happened if it felt that its territorial interest were at risk. furthermore australia and new zealand hadnt been included in a full scale mainland war but was still limited to island clashes. to summarize... europe owes its freedom primarily to over 1 milion russian lives while china owes its freedom to themselves and you, but also a poor decision from the japanese to fight fully fight on two fronts at once over oil.
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I replied to your quote on page 13 of this thread. I forgot to quote it.
