| freedquaker said: Well, do you notice that you understood my words the way you wanted to understand? Because I never talked about the application memory size or hard disc allocation size. I was merely talking about the WINDOWS itself. So it is a comparison of 64 BIT WINDOWS vs 32 BIT WINDOWS, not 32 bit apps vs 64 bit apps. All the points I have made are true and measured and felt and experienced personally by me, as I have 6 freaking laptops and desktops which run both 64 bit and 32 bit versions of Windows 7 (in addition to XP and Linux). And yes, there is only 1 thing I didn't count or care on a PC. Gaming. I don't do PC Gaming. If I did, I'd definitely upgrade that specific PC to 64 bit, at least for the sake driver compatibility and the new generation of games that require Direct X 11, and 64 bit OS as well as 4 GB of RAM. 32 bit Windows can run 4 GB but the 32 bit apps cannot utilize it separately. Other than the big budget PC Games or some rare and far between professional programs, there is almost no program out there that utilizes 64 bit or gains a speed advantage. On the contrary 32 bit is almost always faster. On the vanilla state, the differences are not huge but with the given tweaks that are mostly possible on 32 bit only, 32 bit becomes not only faster (in raw performance) but also MUCH snappier. Let me give you an extreme example... I did slim down the Windows 7 32 bit to 4 GB, including the entire program files and Windows folder. I created a 4G Ram disk to go with this, and installed the Win7-32 bit on a virtual disk, which is located on the RAM Drive. Then I connected my regular main hard disc through the shared folders, where I put all my life but the system. That Virtual PC is faster than any PC I have ever encountered in my life. YOU CANNOT DO THIS with 64 bit Windows 7 because it will take much more space than 4 GB. There are dozens of other reasons why 32 bit Windows 7 is better suited to me than a 64 bit one. But this is true for Windows. My argument is specific to Windows, because I can't say the same thing for most Linux distros. Linux Mint 64 bit, for example, is easily better than its 32 bit counterpart in almost every way. |
Well. That was your own fault for using vague bullet points that is open to interpretation outside of your origional intention, thus the fault isn't mine, perhaps you could spend a little extra time so you could elaborate more on such things in the future?
Regardless, the amount of systems you have doesn't really hold weight in this discussion, but for amusement I do have a Core i7 3930K @ 4.8ghz, Quad Radeon 290's under water, 2x old OCZ 64Gb SSD in Raid 0 and 64Gb of Ram and three Dell 27" 1440P monitors.
I won't go into the other machines I have, but you can't really get that much faster than my main, unless you wish to pay for it which comes with orders of magnitude increases in cost.
Guess what? 32bit Windows would be next to useless for me, considering an application I might use might end up chewing through 10+ Gigabytes of Ram and I might run half a dozen at the same time, it might be fine for you or others who don't have such demanding needs or use a PC that was built when Dinosaurs roamed the earth.
Also some fun facts is if you have an SSD, the more Ram you have, the less Windows will use the pagefile thus decreasing the amount of reads/writes to the SSD, thus in turn prolonging an SSD's life, the biggest limiter to a PC is the hard drive. (Hence why you saw big gains with a Ram Drive.)
Not to mention the more responsive it makes a system as more data is cached in Ram, right now I have roughly 40Gb of data in cache, sitting in the Ram, systems with similar circumstances would benefit greatly from being 64bit and having a ton of Ram, of course that data is freed up when something desires it.
I also cleaned up my Windows 7 64bit install so it fits onto a 4Gb USB 3.0 flash drive and only kept the drivers I need for each specific system I have, the fully decompressed install is roughly 10Gb and installs in about 5 minuits. (You don't know what fast is.)
The best upgrade for any PC is an SSD, heck my grandmother even has one and all she does is use Microsoft word and plays Minecraft with the great grand kids.
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