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Kane1389 on 08 February 2014
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Lumping together weekly sales of three supported consoles against two to make a point - seems like a fair comparison.  Regardless, taking longer to eventually sell less consoles than your competitor, is a funny thing to call an 'annihilation'.  Nintendo is quite  a bit ahead in hardware sales, software sales, and profit.  The only metric in which Sony is winning is the weekly sales of PS4 v. WiiU.  If that's enough for you to declare 'annihilation' then so be it, but it's a pretty shortsighted conclusion.

 

Besides, the article is not singling out the UK market, so I'm not sure why you are.  In fact, it references things as 'the wider gaming industry' and 'the entire gaming market'.  Did you just need an excuse to make a snide comment?

 


Uhh..how are they ahead of hardware sales? I'll give you software sales, since Sony was always more of a hardware company, as for profits, thats only been the case during the 7th gen, and doesnt look to be the case in this one (mind you, im talking about Sony as whole, not SCE only)

'Annihilation' is happening right now - you can try and spin it by adding Nintendo sales since 1983 to make them look better, but the matter of fact is, Nintendo has been never doing worse than they are today, both sales and profit wise. In fact, if you disregard the Wii and the DS, you'll see ALL of NIntendo hardware and software being in decline since the NES. But all that is actually irrelevant, as I was making point about today's situation only.

''The only metric in which Sony is winning is the weekly sales of PS4 v. WiiU''    ...and PS4 vs 3DS, and PS3 vs Wii+WiiU, and PS4 vs anyone else...in fact, the only metric in which they arent winning is Vita.


They are ahead in total hardware sales because you mentioned all of the consoles of last gen (they are currently ahead in this generation as well).  It doesn't matter if Sony is selling more THIS week, because at the end they will still have sold less overall.  The only console that they will sell more of is between the PS4 and WiiU.  The PS4 will not likely outsell the 3DS.  The PS3 will not outsell the Wii (even though it's on the market much longer).  In fact, why do you even mention the PS3?  They are taking LONGER, to sell LESS consoles, and at LESS profit.  That's a pretty silly way to back up your 'annihilation' argument. 

Sweet mother of fuck, you are desperate for spinning. The original post quoted said ''dominating'' as in PRESENT PROGRESSIVE, meaning something that is happening right now. Im sure you learned about it in 5th grade, hence why I included the weekly sales that we are seeing right now and have been seeing since 2012. You are just reaching so hard and try to include LTD sales of 7th gen systems. I guess the word dominat(ING) hit really close home, did it?

PS4 is tracking way above 3DS and is already outselling it on weekly basis, despite being more expensive, having less (no) systemsellers yet and WITHOUT JAPAN. There is absolutely nothing to indicate that PS4 wont outsell 3DS. As for PS3 outselling the Wii, again, I was talking about weekly basis, and there is still a chance for it to outsell it LTD. PS3 still didnt fall below 199$ and still wasnt released in developing countries at reasonable price like PS2 did. With this strategy, PS2 went on to sell 40+ million in 7th gen, PS3 will be able to do half of that I think. And how are they selling (notice the ''ing'' at the end) when PS3 is outselling Wii almost 4 to 1 on weekly basis? They are taking longer to sell, but that comes when you launch your system with 599$ price tag. And given how Wii is not even selling in most of the world anymore, I fail to see how its making more profit than the 249$ PS3.

As a whole, Sony is doing terrible.  Their stock just got downgraded to junk status and they are selling off major assets to stay afloat.  They're in bad shape (much worse than Nintendo).  As a division, SCE is almost always outperformed by Nintendo in profit.  Another area where they are not 'annihilating' anyone. 

Oh, so now are we back to present progressive? You've gotta make up your mind man, I know you are trying hard to spin this stuff to ''defend'' your favorite toy company, but you've gotta set the line, and not spin and cherry pick whenever it fits your incredibly weak argument. And Sony 's satus has been upgraded to Buy btw.

Nobody added Nintendo sales since 1983.  I'm not sure where you even got that garbage.  I added up the consoles that YOU were comparing (304.1m vs 175.31m).  I didn't bring them up, you did.  Sony has a lot of catching up to do, regardless of how this week is going.  Winning a fight but losing the war. 

Again, original quoted post, learn english grammer rules,  weekly sales, stop spinning, 

I never claimed that Nintendo isn't doing worse today, or that they aren't underperforming - they are.  However, looking at the big picture (bigger than 1 week of sales), I fail to see where this 'annihilation' is happening.  In fact it seems quite the opposite of what you're claiming.  If you'd like to disregard how badly Sony was outsold all of last generation, then don't bring up last gen consoles to prove your point.    Statisically on a weekly basis the PS4=3DS and Vita=WiiU - which is not an 'annihilation'. 

Statistically, on weekly basis, PlayStaion > Nintendo, and this has been going on since PS4 launched, and the gap is only gonna get bigger with PS4 overtaking 3DS in weekly sales. And just to satisfy you, even without including last gen conoles, its still PS4&Vita >>> 3DS&WiiU and PS4 isnt even launched in Japan. Nintendo is in for an ass whooping, thats for sure

"In fact, if you disregard the Wii and the DS, you'll see ALL of NIntendo hardware and software being in decline since the NES"  -  Why are we disregarding the Wii and DS?  Because it fits your agenda?  Because it was only a 'fluke'?  I mean, if you disregard PS2, you'll see Sony has been in a steady decline since PSX.  What does that prove exactly?  Nothing, that's what.

I had no agenda there, I was making a point. Unless they hit a casual hot button, they are likely to end up dead last and decline further in hardware sales department, as we are seeing happening in this gen. And PS4 is actually tracking above PS2, btw, whereas WiiU is barely keeping above Dreamcast