Future of Sony? 1.1 Billion dollar loss.

[Normchacho]

Imaginedvl said:

Normchacho said:

Imaginedvl said:

Normchacho said:
didn't they just get upgraded? Stock is going up, PS4 is selling better than expected. The outlook is actually better than it has been in a number of years. People just see one number and think that's the whole story.

I believe it is the opposite, you see their stock going up and you believe that's the whole story.

What about all the money they lost during the past few months/years and what about the next quarter? This one was bad even with the launch of the PS4, imagine the next one... The stock went up because they announced their intention of selling their PC division, not because of the PS4... And it is just another tentative from Sony to stop bleeding money; it is too early to say if things are going to be better.

I'm afraid the shareholders and financial analysts are on my side here. Stocks are up despite the bad numbers because shareholder confidence is up and like I said they were just upgraded to "buy" status by Jefferies. 

You're mistaking the $1.1 B loss for quarterly numbers. That numbers is the yearly forcast and it was changed to that due to the costs of getting rid of the PC division as well as restructuring the TV division. They posted a profit for Q3.

I do not believe you understand what we are talking about here... The shareholders and financial analysts are not on anyone's side, they believe that Sony is going to lose less money based on their plan to get ride of their TV divions (and not because of the PS4 sales like you said, nothing to do with that).

All that being said, the point is: how many money investors LOST during the past year (not the results). Just Google and look at Sony' stock history... I mean it is simple maths, you can twist those numbers in any way you want it will not change the reality. That's the "whole" picture. Go speak with all those people who lost money over Sony's mess...

Also, 1.1b loss IS 1.1b LOSS, no matter how you look at them, nothing is positive about that, nothing... Even without taking into consideration 5000 people losing their job, Sony's current debt, etc...

No no, this thread is on Sonys FUTURE. I'm talking about the Outlook for Sony. It has nothing to do with stock history over the last year. Some people (like yourself) just saw the 1.1b loss and ran with it without knowing what it meant. 

Heck, until I told you otherwise you thought that the 1.1b loss was the Q3 2013 numbers. You didn't even bother to find out the context for the loss before coming on here and claiming doom.

 All I said about the PS4 was that is was selling better than expected. That's it, end, done. I never tied it into the TV division or  anything else. If you really want to get into it you could say that the success of the PS4 will help the gaming division which is good for the company as a whole. But that's not the point I was making at this time.

My point, which I have backed up with facts mind you. Is that despite what might seem as new fuel for the "Sony is doomed" bandwagon, the financial outlook for Sony is stronger now that it was before this weeks news came out.

It's becoming more and more clear that you are not actually interested in talking about Sonys outlook or what this news actually means and instead just wanted a place to yell "1.1B in losses! Sony is doomed!". If that isn't the case than I apologize but you did come into the thread ill equiped to debate the topic at hand.