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mutantsushi said:
The Fury said:
Basically what I read in that was that we are all being screwed. As I said in another thread:
"Welcome to the Next Gen everyone, we'll fleece you for all your worth."

Uh... How so?  PS+ is still offering it's great free game selection, and you can use it on 3 platforms (PS4, PS3, PSV).

People in fact did buy it previously when it wasn't required for MP.  Now more people buy it because it's required, but the offering is still better.

It probably does but for me the appeal just isn't that great, I had PS+ from October to December last year and while I got to play some games I wouldn't say it's "all that." It's nice but not great, but I'm currently enjoying my PS3 with it's FREE multiplayer gaming. I get to play with my friends and not have to pay anything more than just for the game (and the console obviously)... and the ISP and electricty......

Mr Puggsly said:

For what you get on either service, its actually a great value. We're talking a few bucks a month.

They have also become more valuable thanks to competition.

Healthy competition is a great thing, it helped PSN add aditional features it might never have (like PS+)and has helped Xbox Live be more competitive with it's additions as well.

But it's a great value for a service that is required to play part of a game you've already paid for. I guess with modern gaming culture there is a lot on offer for those that want it, people demand more from companies (online multiplayer, DLC, updates for game bugs etc) but expect to pay less (we still pay £40 for a new game, we did this during PS1 era). This is a way they can get some of that money back via DLC or subscription services but usually it's a choice. PS+ was a choice on PS3 and Vita not a requirement.

I started playing X-men Legends again the other day, in it you can unlock things, characters, costumes etc, If this game was made now, all that would be pre-order bonuses or DLC you pay extra for. Even if this direct is needed to make the industry more prolific, I still don't like it.



Hmm, pie.