So George Zimmerman shot a boy who's not old enough to drink, 2 times in the back, and 1 to 6 times in the balls (like Robocop) in self defense?

[shio]

nitekrawler1285 said:

shio said:

nitekrawler1285 said:

 Zimmerman started the altercation by stalking him.   A frightened or violent response would be a normal thing in that context.  He also decided to ignore the advice from the authority figures he called when he dialed 911.  I really wish people whom disobeyed the law and authorities weren't allowed to carry guns.  As the legal aged adult I feel that he did far enough even before the last part of the altercation that blame should land squarely on his shoulders.  

Zimmerman didn't disobey the law, he wasn't required to follow the advice of the dispatcher (and he didn't call 911, he called a non-emergency line).

Simply stalking shouldn't be deserving of getting beaten, especially if there wasn't a percieved threat of injury. Trayvon didn't seem to think there was a big threat, since he didn't run away (which he easily could have), or called 911 (which he easily could have), but instead the testemonies in court suggest that Trayvon actually initiated the confronting talk between both of them (supported by both Zimmerman and Trayvon's friend): 

- Zimmerman said that he had lost sight of Trayvon, but then Trayvon jumped out of a bush/tree and started talking to him.
- Trayvon's friend said that she heard on the phone the sound of wet grass (possibly Trayvon ducking and sliding/hitting grass/bushes?) and Trayvon whispering "get off", "get off" (perhaps to tell her to get off the phone call?), and finally hearing Trayvon confront Zimmerman with a question (I don't remember what it was, but I think it was "what are you doing?" or something along the lines)

Then we have a strong witness which claims that Trayvon was on top of Zimmerman, and that Trayvon was pummeling Zimmerman with punches, and not letting Zimmerman get away. All while hearing Zimmerman scream "help".

So taking alternate routes home doesn't count as  trying to get away?  Note  Zimmerman lost him while trailing.  

He may not have been compelled to follow their directive but if he really didn't want to escalate anything there was no reason for him to ever leave the vehicle. He was already aware the authorities were on their way.  He just wanted to escalate the situation.  

Don't go stalking prey you can't beat if you don't want to get overcome.  

Trayvon had plenty of chances to completely speed away from Zimmerman (healthy teen vs a fat man) or call for help. Doesn't matter if he took an alternate route (I didn't know this), he should've just run away at full speed to safety, but it seems that he chose in the end to confront Zimmerman (seems, no one is certain of this).

There was NO cops "on their way". He called a non-emergency line, and there was NO cops requested to the place. The main purpose of calling the non-emergency line is to request advice and let the cops know that there could be suspicious activity. The cops only came after one of the witnesses called 911 during the fight between Trayvon and Zimmerman.

Oh please, things aren't as simple as "he stalked, he must get beaten or die". Zimmerman followed Trayvon because there were recent break-ins in the neighborhood, and he thought Trayvon could be trying to break in(obviously he was wrong). Zimmerman could've simply tried to follow Trayvon, and nothing else, no one knows for certain.

Nothing in the court proved that Zimmerman actually tried to do more than following Trayvon. 

The only thing that's missing is "who threw the first punch?". No one knows who physically started the fight:
- If Zimmerman started the fight, then he deserved a manslaughter charge.
- If Trayvon started the fight, then Zimmerman deserved to defend himself from Trayvon.

But there is no proof of who started the fight, and because of this there is reasonable doubt. Since the court assumes innocent until proven guilty, and there was reasonable doubt, then Zimmerman deserves to be a free man.