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eyeofcore said:
DonFerrari said:
 

I'll just remember you one thing... if you want to put 1 game+ MP fee on the count for "complete experience" for PS4/Xbone to make WiiU see more valuable... then you have to count all the free games you have on Plus and Games for Gold. So how much would cost 10-20 games for WiiU?

I am not making Wii U see more valuable, I am just being factual and you just don't like it.

All "free" games on PlayStation Plus/Games for Gold are relatively old games that are released a couple or more months ago and by then you can get those games in a retail store at bargain bin rather than price of a new game just released for 60$ . You "own" these games that you get on PlayStation Plus and Games for Gold  "forever" yet don't you lose all of them if you forgot or can't pay up 60$ a year for PlayStation Plus/Xbox Live(Games For Gold) account?

About patches and social, that is free on PS4, not sure on One... the only thing you pay for in PSN+ is Multiplayer, free games and discounts. Everything else is free.

You need to stop saying free games because they aren't free at all to begin with and on Wii U you can earn eShop points by purchasing games on eShop and when you have enough points then you can select to use those points to reduce price of that piece of software.

Anyway you are probably one of those people on PlayStation Vita that buy no games or just buy games for it that are on bargain bin and also pay PlayStation Plus wait for "free games" just because they are too nitpicky at spending money on games or are in fact poor or something. Thanks for not supporting developers at all, please force them to cut more content from games and make more overpriced DLC rip-offs because you enjoy it.

You have no idea how wrong you are... I don't own a Vita, but I have over 100 retail copies of PS3 games, several are second hand, but 90%+ of the 1st parties were brought new and usually within 6 months or less from release.

And games you got on Xbox Games for Gold is yours forever (even tough they are old or niche), and any game you bought for discount on PSN+ are also yours forever... while the free games you got on PSN+ aren't accessible when you have your PSN+ subscription deactivated whenever you reactivate ALL OF THE GAMES YOU HAD PREVIOUSLY IS YOURS AGAIN, I see this as a good trade-off for getting like 20+ free AAA games per year for 50 dollars, no bargain bin beat that.

And you are the one picking games that won't give much money for devs when you say you bought a bundle with 2 games for the same price of the unbundled console, and you say that PSN+ are all bargain bin... you clearly have no Idea about PSN+ or Xbox Live and keep spouting that to have a complete experience on them you need to pay 510 and 620, while saying on WiiU you will have the full experience for 350.

And I don't buy ANY DLC at all, and don't suppport devs that keep content away from the release to put a DLC on the day of release or 2 months after there is a big upgrade... but it seems you can judge me as buying bargain bin, just downloading from PSN+ and sucking DLC just because I don't agree with you, and If I'm not wrong 95% of gamers also don't agree with you on this... but I'll let you keep living in this special world of yours, where all you said make sense.



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