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the2real4mafol said:

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the2real4mafol said:

She probably was being a bit annoying but you can't compare meat to fracking. Fracking has very serious, long term effects which are seemingly ignored by gas companies even though such are proven to have such bad impacts on man and nature. I don't see how anyone could have the right to frack on their own property as the contamination from fracking chemicals will spread beyond said property.  Unfortunately, as long as it's profitable, companies like Cabot won't care. I just find it reckless to make money knowing you are doing so from such enviromentally destructive practices.

Badgenome proves she is a bit of a crazy freak but i'm only concerned for protecting the environment and constitutional rights. It seems whoever has more money wins every time. 

Also, something like fracking has wide health risks on people who happen to live near these sites. What about their rights? 

You absolutely CAN compare meat to fracking. Both are legitmate business practices (regardless if you condone fracking or not it is not illegal) and therefore deserving of the same protections under the law. So, Ms. Vera and her sick, twisted, vile activities can and should go elsewhere.

As for your assertion that constitutional rights be protected, so I am guessing that if you are rich you have essentially traded your constitutional rights for all that wealth? The idea that rich automatically = evil is one twisted world view IMHO.

Fracking has no more adverse health effects than any other risky industry. In fact out of most of the current ways we get our energy it is one of the more safe ways of extracting energy products and the technique has actually been in use since the 1940s. With disingenuos claims made by films like Gasland (remember that flamable tap water stunt which is a naturally occring phenomenon that happens even in the absence of fracking) make wild innacurate and blatantly false claims the hysteria is getting out of control and the loony wing of environmentalism won't be happy until we are back to the stone ages. Hell, even then they won't want us burning wood for heat and light as many places around the US are even considering wood burning bans for that very same reason.

 

Fracking has the risk of environmental damage so why can't we develop cleaner and renewable sources instead? I don't know what loony enviromentalists you are talking about. But to maintain our current standard of living, we need to be as sustainable as possible. That doesn't mean restricting the economy, it means tapping into the creative side of capitalism which allowed the industrial revolution innovation possible. 

Also, the rich aren't necessarily evil they are just more careless than the rest of us. There wealth has just disconnected them from the rest of us. 

Finally, nothing wrong with burning wood to keep warm. Just remember to plant a new tree to replace you chopped down. 

It simply is not true that fracking is somehow overtly damaging to the environment. No more so than mining for the precious metals used to build all our precious electronic devices or cars or homes ironicly all of which need power whioch is produced by fracking and natural gas and oil and coal and even solar and wind solutions need mined materials that are extracted from the earth.

This idea of sustainable is so over used and misconstrued to mean that we will never extract resources from the earth and that we'll build wind and solar devices that will power us forever and well all hold hands and sing Kumbaya.

We are finding new sources of natural gas and shale oil all the time. Besides the energy produced form fracking is even cleaner than straight up oil or coal.

The loons I talk about are people like Ms. Vera. Or the countless others who would have us ban, cutting down trees, coal mining, nuclear energy, the internal combustion engine for electric cars (even though those electric cars need a source of energy most likely derived from coal, oil or nuclear sources), oil drilling, diggin holes, stealing peoples property for endangered frogs or insects (seriously how can insects be endangered), protest eating of meat while protesting GMO produce (which could lead to less eating of meat) etc. etc. etc.

The circular logic of these people is astoundingly neurotic and shouldn't be taken serious by any rational human being.

And to cap it off woth your final point, the bans have nothing to do with thge cutting down of trees it is for the sake of air quality and the EPA has even recently expanded bans on more types of woodburning stoves. In some localities in the Puget Sound (Western WA state) and I think in San Fransisco you can be fined for using your fire place! It's getting stupid really.