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Pemalite said:
adriane23 said:
Scoobes said:
adriane23 said:
Scoobes said:
adriane23 said:
My take:

For more money than a next gen console, you can have a PC that will either slightly underperform, compete, or slightly outperform a next gen console.

What was the point of this?

Try similar money, free online and cheaper games with the ability to upgrade if you wish it.

For more money (£20) you'll get superior performance, and unlike previous gens, given an extra year that £100 graphics card will be superior to console games. All of these results haven't even factored the Mantle API into the equation as no one is using it yet. That'll allow devs to code "closer to the metal" in a similar way to consoles.

So PC is actually a very attractive option for the rest of the gen. If it wasn't for Uncharted 4 I'd probably skip PS4 altogether... I still might considering I have to save money to pay for a Wedding.

Similar? I don't think so. You'd be easily paying $650+ just to match most of what will be offered on the next gen consoles.



Here are a few examples of similar pricing but still <$500. It's also worth noting that the graphics cards in these builds are better than the graphics card in the OP.

By the end of the year (I doubt either the PS4 or X1 will have had a price cut by this point), this will be even easier:

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-1878923/build-500-budget-gaming-amd.html

http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/171158-can-you-build-a-gaming-pc-better-than-the-ps4-for-400


Similar pricing with no OS, no keyboard/mouse (or controller if you really want to try and match), no Blu Ray drive, no headset, and no wireless capabilities.

Keyboard+Mouse can be had for under $10.

Blu-ray really isn't necessary for PC gaming, EB Games/Gamestop and other gaming stores over the decades constantly reduced the PC shelf space and Steam arrived, thus by extension most PC gamers have no need for last century optical discs, everything is online.
With that in mind, my main PC has no optical disc drive, it's a high-end enthusiast level machine, but I do have a USB Blu-ray ROM drive on the *very* rare chance I might need it. (Hasn't happened yet.)

Wireless network card/USB stick can be had for $10 or less.

Microphones can also be had pretty cheap, usually you sit at a desk with a desktop PC so a cheap $10 logitech free standing Microphone is more than adequate for allot of users.

As for Operating System, you have less than legal ways of obtaining a copy (I don't condone this), you can also go to a computer recyclers place and grab a key legally off the side of a box. - A call to microsoft will untie it from the previous hardware.
You also have SteamOS and Linux as options too. - Linux has WINE+DosBox which has an impressive amount of backwards compatability with Windows games and they're 100% free.

On the flipside, once you buy it, that's it.
With consoles, whenever a new generation is launched you usually have to buy all the peripherals all over again.

a $10 keyboard and mouse (especially wireless) is not comparable to a PS4 or X1 controller. If you're going to get things on the cheap that aren't comparable, you might as well get a cheap graphics card.

The point of the comparison is to make a PC that can rival a console, so that also means it needs to be conveniently operational in a living room like a console is. That means the microphone needs to either be wireless, or connect to your controller of choice.

There are less than legal ways of obatining everything, so that's pointless to bring up. Again, I have to bring up convenience. Right now (and probably for a good while longer), Steam OS and especially Linux now that Steam OS is being pushed by Valve are not viable options because most games don't run on them.

You're right about the peripherals, but the same could be said for consoles in terms of PSUs, graphics cards, and CPUs. Once you buy the console, that's it for at least 5 years. They will be the main focus of 90% of developers, and always optimized for.

I'm not trying to put PC gaming down, because I also game on my PC, I'm just trying to point out the sillyness of trying to price match consoles. And if you're gaming on a PC, you should be trying to outperform consoles (by a lot), not match them. Don't be ashamed to pay more for better performance.



I am the Playstation Avenger.