360 Numbers don't add up!

[Monty]

broshnat said: Hmmm, well you aren't disputing the Japan / Others numbers but you seem to think the NA figure should be about 1 million higher (6.2m vs 5.2m) to summarise your 'argument'. 2.9 m in the USA sold as of October. Taking 10% for the rest of NA gives 3.2m (as given by this site). Add 2m for Nov / Dec gives 5.2m (also as given). Try it another way. 2.9m sold in USA as of October. 510k November. 3.4m total in USA as of November. Add your 10% for rest of NA and you get 3.75m (as given by this site) at the end of November NA - 550k of which was in November. 2m Nov + Dec NA leaves 1.45m in December. This as a jump from 550k seems a bit high personally so I'd be a little cautious about this number anyway, but however you look at it you get 5.2 million

It's not that I don't disagree with the other numbers outside of NA, it's just that I'm trying to simplify the debate into the easiest to prove area to show that numbers presented here are obviously way lower than they are supposed to be. The crux of this argument is best proven by showing that vgcharts is not adding in a single unit for Canada and Mexico. Let's use figures that we have for just the US: "Microsoft’s Xbox 360 is on track to reach our 2006 sales estimate of 4.5 million units in the U.S." http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=12280 The 360 sold 610K in 2005 to the US. That's 5.1 million in US sales alone. What I am asking is why here at vgcharts is adding in virtually ZERO consoles for Canada and Mexico. Even if merely 400K units were sold in both territories in 14 months, then that would still place vgcharts numbers for "the Americas" at being well off. I still firmly believe that the 360 is over 9 million WW, but for the sake of this debate I'm trying to go VERY conservative in every estimate, and trying to narrow it down to just NA to show how the numbers do not fit at all. I personally believe that vgcharts is misrepresenting the numbers that are much harder to come by (such as Canada and Mexico). Perhaps it is an honest mistake, but it still seems odd to me that this site is so far under most expert's estimates.