Can Vita Outsell Sega's GameGear LTD?

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Nirvana_Nut85 said:

What the heck are you talking about?  Do you actually stop to think before you go into a nonsensical rant like this? You’re the one who constantly keeps accusing me of implying that I stated you claimed indies would save the PSV, which I did not. I stated If. I even provided a link to the definition which you clearly have failed to even bother checking with as you are still continuing this unintelligent banter. http://www.thefreedictionary.com/IF ,there is the link again. I will even provide you with part of the definition in the hopes it manages to sink in this time “A possibility, condition, or stipulation”. If you still cannot comprehend what I was stating, click the link, If that doesn’t work then maybe you shouldn’t be posting (on any site for that matter). I am done trying to explain this to you. You would think that after taking a few days to come up with a response to my previous post, that you would have managed to at least responded somewhat intelligently. I obviously should not have assumed that. As for being stuck in the mud, it seems that you are the one who has not been able to let this argument go. Even after you have failed to provide a proper response and have continued to further embarrass yourself, you continue to bring it up. As for the Canadian comment, aren’t you from Poland? I’ll be the bigger man as usual and refrain from making a similar comment but considering your background, I would highly refrain from commenting  about other’s ethnic backgrounds :D

Listen, I understand you’re a troll account but even this is too much? Where did the PS4 vs. XO comment come from? I never implied I stated that first. I took your comment and simply used it against you as just about any of the nonsense you’ve posted can easily be done. Had you thoroughly read my earlier comment you would have noticed I was referring to the statement I made of:

 “Why are they going to support a sinking ship when the PS4 is going to be heading into a difficult battle for lead market share against the Xbone  ( In N.A for the most part) over the next several years.”

 Once again, please read comments thoroughly before responding.

No, not lunacy, complete and utter lunacy is what you have displayed. Unity is irrelevant, something you and Joerc are unable to comprehend. Wow, you’ve managed to get a thank you from someone who is unable to provide proper reason to his argument as well, good job. Because you know, a site that is heavily populated by rose colored glasses wearing Sony fans are not going to agree with themselves. Hell you guy were right on the money about PS3 outselling 360 by 2009….Weren’t you?  Late 2015/early 2016 is not 1 year. We’re in January 2014, do the math. Like I stated to others, it may not be Sony’s decision whether the Vita is pulled or not as if sales continue YoY as I’ve explained it will be retailers (beginning in the West) that start to take back shelf space as they are not going to make room for consoles that sell. Never stated the Vita is not the 2^nd best selling console in Japan, what I’m stating is that it won’t last for very long. The software lineup this year is abysmal. Major titles are barely managing to even break a few hundred thousand in sales over there. Let’s keep up the optimism though. Unlike you, I am realistic when it comes to my console of choices sales. If the Wii U continues in the same trend as the Vita, retail will remove it from shelves whether Nintendo likes it or not and that is a plausible scenario.

So how about this, maybe instead of taking a few days this time to create a response that has once again failed to justify your argument. Take a week. Yes a whole week to go over the arguments I’ve given so that maybe, just maybe you actually provide something intelligent to this debate.

 

I do not stop thinking when I post here, but I see you are so humiliated and stressed, that you don't even start doing it. Look, I'm gonna explain it to you as simple as possible, though I really doubt you're gonna understand. I'm affraid at this point it's too hard for you to embrace the fact that 2+2=4, but I'm gonna try either way. This is what our conversation looks like:

You: Vita won't outsell GG.
Me: At this point, Vita will outsell GG just thanks to what it's going to sell in Japan. West is irrelevant, it's just something extra, but the situation in Japan alone makes your argument totally invalid.
You: "If you considering indie support as strong 3rd party then your previous implications of my character would obviously be more suitable to describe you"
Me: ??? I have never said anything about indies or that the Western 3rd party support is good. It absolutely doesn't matter for my argument to be true and your to be wrong. I'm not biting the hook over here and I'm not responding to this AT ALL. I shoot you down here and tell you not to push the conversation in this direction, as it's completely pointless and would only lead into another one of your pointless rants. Future sales in Japan alone will cause Vita to sell more than 10.6 mil LT WW. EOT.
You: LOL, you so stupid! You stupid Polish troll, you can't understand what "IF" means, trolololo!
Me: WFT? It doesn't matter. Japan alone makes your argument look ridiculous. Why are you repeating the "if" argument, when I'm not touching the matter in that sentence AT ALL? I'm not gonna bite the hook and let you take the conversation in a different direction.
You: You so stupid!! You no understand what "if" means!! You should stop posting, cause you too stupid and no understand English!! Trolololo!!
Me: But Japan... I don't wanna talk about indies or 3rd party...
You: U no understand "if"!! You so stupid!! Trolololo!!
Me: ...

To sum up - I don't care about what you wrote in that sentence. I really can't say it more clearly. I have never responded to it, I have never touched that matter, be it the importance of indies or the strenght of 3rd party support in the West. I'm ignoring it totally as absolutely irrelevant. On the other hand, you keep grinding in the mud and cling to the ridiculous statement that I don't understand the meaning of the word "if". It's really pathetic, you know this? Is it really too much for you to understand that I don't care about this argument of yours AT ALL! It can go either way for all I care. I have never made a single claim in this matter, as it doesn't matter at all in this argument, it bears no weight at all and I don't want you to take this argument into the shady zone of judging the importance of indies and 3rd party support. It is pointless.

I really can't say it more clearly, but I still get the feeling you won't understand.

I'm sorry to bring it to you, but you are nowhere near to being "the bigger man" over here, Shrek. You also happen to be the one who started the ethnic banter. Moreover, I'm absolutely sure you know next to nothing about my nation, and whatever you think you know is wrong. This time it's nothing personal - I have Canadian friends and know for a fact you don't know sh*t about Poland or other Central European countries.

You have used something against me? Hahaha! So far you are only using things against yourself, but whatever... At least we agree that right now Vita is suffering from PS4 getting all the love in the West. It's just that I believe they could return to Vita if they wanted to in the future, when PS4 dominance is secured, by relegating their old handheld-focused studios or setting up new ones, while you think it's impossible. Fair enough.

To the lunacy issue... I think I've already proven last time who has saled to the wide ocean of lunacy? Seriously, you totally ignoring that GCN part of the conversation makes me lauch so hard at you that you can't even imagine. The word "clown" is always gonna come to my mind whenever I see your nick/avatar from now on :) This cowardly reaction to me catching you on a completely bullsh*t rant tells everything about your personality. Oh, a word of advice - don't call people trolls, you can get banned for it over here. I'm not gonna report you, you are way too pityful for me and I'm obviously gonna take the high road here, but if a mod sees your posts, you might get in trouble.

Just like you went crazy and humiliated yourself with the GCN rant, you humiliate yourself again with the PS3 vs. X360 comment. You put me in the group of PS3 fanboys from 2007-2008? Buahahaha!! 1st thing - I have joined this forum on the 24th of October 2012. 2nd thing - I have earned my first ever Playstation trophy on the 2nd of December 2012. I haven't owned a single console (be it Sony or not) back in 2007 and couldn't care less about this whole console war. D'oh! You've totally failed again! Just like you do with your predictions in this thread or with this sweet little conversation.

To your Vita argument, I'm gonna repeat this again. The West doesn't matter AT ALL. Even if retailers in NA stop selling Vita will it influence Japan and cause Sony to pull it from the shelves there? Hell no! Vita is doing well enough in Europe to validate shelf space there so far as well. Also, I couldn't disagree more about the 2014 lineup being abyssmal. In fact it's totally the opposite - there are so many good games releasing this February and March that it's impossible to buy all these great games and Vita owners have hard time picking the most important games to buy first. The coming months are just jam-packed with games.

You are not being realistic. You have no idea what you're talking about and just don't understand that Japan couldn't care less about what's going on in the West and Sony won't kill it there even if Vita fails in the West. PSP is the best proof here. It's been dead in NA for years - so what? PSP was still massive in Japan with huge number of great games coming out all the time and is still selling surprisingly respectable numbers in Europe, even though the software support here has been dead for years. This should really make you think very hard - maybe for the first time in this thread. Vita is secured in Japan and isn't going anywhere, no matter what happens in the West. It is selling well and gets more and more games. Japanese devs couldn't care less what people in NA do, they care about their own market and Vita is already established there. Sony killing it there makes no sense and if you really believe that retailers will deny shelf space to the second best selling console in the country... Then I just drop my case - there is no point talking to you. You think Vita's strong position in Japan won't last long because...? Hmmm... Let me think... Is it because they have already quite a few big games coming there? Soul Sacrifice Delta, Soul Sacrifice 2, Gravity Rush 2, Freedom Wars, Monster Hunter Frontier, Persona 4 spin-off and many other games. Or maybe is it because developers making Vita games there report sales that surpass their expectations and get huge sell-through rates? Is it because PSP multiplats sell much more on Vita and even some PS3 multiplats sell better on Vita? Hmm...

I guess it might be a bit of an ego issue for you, but you have to accept that you guys in NA just don't matter at all in the quest for 10.6 mil Vitas sold, neither does it matter for Japan or even Europe what you guys do with Vita, sorry. Vita will sell enough in Japan to get pass GG at this point. It will keep on selling in EU as well, which only makes this an even safer bet and your claim that much more absurd.