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Somini said:
Seece said:

It wasn't an insult, it was a genuine thought I had by the way you word stuff ....

I don't see how there is any other logic?? It's pretty clear cut isn't it. Xbox isn't losing billions a year.

In fact with Surface likely offsetting Windows mobile, and the launch of Xbox One not making them a loss (amazing) 360 must be raking in massive amounts of cash. $400m profit.

The guy who made that claim IS a liar he has his own agenda.

It's not like his word is that of GOD, so i'm not saying it can't possibly be wrong. But considering the article and the piece about what he does, Liam Tung is an Australian business technology journalist, then i don't see a reason to distrust him. It's the best professional piece we have on the matter. I could just claim they are hiding this and that, because i know how big corportaions work as i've worked for a coniving one for some time and they all are, but i wanted to show a journalistic article on the matter.

I've laid it out pretty clear for you. You either think MS are being seriously shady or not. It's pretty straight forward though, their hardware division has Surface, Windows Mobiles and Xbox, and they made a profit. Not $2 bill in losses. Those are the facts.

Unless like I said you think MS are being illegal? No need to skirt around the issue and use weak arguments like the fact he's a journalist means there is no need to distrust him (really?)