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The Fury said:
Darth Tigris said:
So during the whole XBO DRM thing, arguments were that you didn't really own your games and that was evil, right?

But when the same issue is brought up with PS+ and it's "free" games that you own only if you maintain your subscription it's a non-issue, right?

Consistency is a bit much to ask of people I guess ...

Different situations. PS+ has never been anything but advertised as a rental service, of course you don't own your games, you aren't paying for the games just the service. The Xbone DRM issue was that you were going to a high street store and buying the game, then it's installed on your machine and MS wanted to you check in with them every day to make sure that game is still yours. I can pay for a service like Netflix and I get to watch TV shows, but I've also bought the boxset of say Frasier, but the box set doesn't make me check every day with NBC servers to make sure I'm still allowed to watch it. I've already paid for that privilege (as I would when buying the game).

Why are so many people in this thread comparing different things to each other thinking they are the same? Xbox Live and PS+ are different. PS+ rented games is different to Xbox One DRM.

But that's not true.  I've never seen PS+ advertised as a rental service.  Ever.  People have constantly talked about the free games you get as a huge benefit.  But you don't own them.

I do agree about it not being apples to apples, but there is a principle here that many are just ignoring because it doesn't fit their narrative of Sony being good/pro-gamer and Microsoft being evil/anti-consumer.  Why doesn't Sony let you keep the games they 'give' you like MS is doing now?  Which is more disingenuous or anti-consumer?

Ultimately what you stated earlier and here is true:  XBL and PS+ are different services and a proper comparison to one another is not practical without numerous caveats.  Neither one is perfect though, so elevating one over the other at this point is rather petty.