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Aldro said:

You're wrong.

For starters, there's a vocal minority that look back on MGS4 that way. It led to a point where GAF even had a revote in 2011 or so and MGS4 won GOTY for 2008 despite that. It is still very much considerd to be a masterpiece among many, including myself.

But why compare TLOU to MGS4? Compare it to UC2. That is a game that came out a mere year after MGS4 and even lacks that vocal minority and its made by ND as well. UC2 is just as relevant if not even more currently. It's in tons of GOTG votings and generally praised to hell even today. If you think TLOU which does everything better than UC2, will recieve a similar vocal minority to that of MGS4: Then you're just very wrong.

MGS4 also retconned a ton and generally had a fuckton of past to connnect to. TLOU and UC2 are practically standalone and it does not take a genious to realize that the praise for these games are not exactly easy to replica. It's not just one aspect either. If you truly look at where the praise is coming from, you'd be delusional to think it will be "forgotten" (which MGS4 even isn't but yeah, it has indeed a vocal minority to looks back on it going "what was I thinking").

 

I can't think of a clever reply to this, right now, but I'd like to keep this conversation some other time :)