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Scisca said:
Nirvana_Nut85 said:
Scisca said:

My mind is operating perfectly, but your is clearly failing. Do you even understand what I'm talking about? It's the second time you're trying to call me on something you've pulled out of your ass. I've never mentioned the West as important in the quest for 11 mil Vitas sold, in fact I've stated the opposite. I've never mentioned the support for the West in 2014 as remotely important for that. I've never mentioned indies. These are just your demons and your inability to properly read a post. These semantics you're so desperately clinging to are totally meaningless and it only makes you look that much more pathetic.

On the other hand, again, I was talking about Japan. Japan gets great support and it's not your bloody indies (I wonder if you'll manage to let go of them in this thread), but proper games and I'm gonna repeat it - Japan is enough for the Vita to pass GG. I do apply logic, just like everyone else in this thread does except for you. You wanna know the major difference between Vita and Wii U? Vita has already found its market. Its position in Japan is pretty much set and will only improve. 3DS is selling better, but there are already genres that Vita managed to secure for itself in Japan. Vita is not competing with 3DS, it's going at its own pace - slow but methodical. It is safe there and can only expand. On top of that Sony is still investing in it, securing the translations, just this week we've learned about the port of Unity Engine. That doesn't look like they are planning to kill the console anytime soon. On the other hand, Wii U has nothing to cling to. No region, no target group of customers, no nothing. That is why your wet dream of Sony phasing Vita out is ridiculous. More and more Japanese 3rd parties are making the jump from PSP to Vita, it would just make no sense to kill it. I actually think it more possible that Vita sells more than PS4 LT in Japan, than that Sony decides to kill it within a year. Japan is a totally different market than the West and Vita suits them better - both the gamers and the developers.

Just repeat this 10 times: "Vita will earn Sony money in Japan". Maybe you'll finally understand why everyone laughs at your "predictions".

I've now had to explain this to you several times regarding the Indie comment. I went out of my way to even bold it for you in the hopes that you would have a an ounce of understanding in what I was saying to you. I was wrong. I understand you're from Poland but if you do not understand the English language, or are unable to apply common sense when reading a sentence, then maybe you should refrain from posting. Since I'm a somewhat nice person I will copy the bolded words from my previous post and provide you a link for the definition of the word IF ( I said "IF YOU ARE CONSIDERING" not "You Are" in regards to indies being considered as strong 3rd party support.http://www.thefreedictionary.com/IF

Once again you've made assumptions or else completely missed the point I was making as you've seen to do so throught your entire rant. I never stated that you commented as the West being important. I advised that their resources are gong to be focused on the battle with Xbone (in N.A for the most part). How the hell did you misconstrue this one?

Now you've decided to  jump into the lunacy boat of Vita outselling gamecube. Vita barely has enough compelling software to keep it afloat, let alone sell another 15 million systems. You claim I'm being ridiculous by stating there is a possibility of Vita not outselling gamegear, to which I actually provide an intelligent argument as to why  it might not and then you claim that Vita will outsell the Gamecube? Are you really being serious or is this just a troll account? It would seem the latter at this point as you've drifted off into the land of nonesense. Untiy engine will not be anything significant for the Vita. Sure we will see alot more indie developed titles but at the end of the day it will have the same impact as it did for the Wii U. Sweet F all!The moment you made all these claims about the Vita and then stated the Wii U has nothing to cling to, solidified the obvious fact that you are either suffering from some sort of delusions or else you are even more of an extreme Sony (insert word that is bannable) then some of the fanatics on this site. Your reasoning makes absolutely no sense whatsoever in your wishful thinking of positive outcomes for the Vita. 

2014 3rd part games in Japan will not move significant hardware, Unity will do absolutely shit all for Vita, the Vita is a dying console and will will never in it's lifetime pass gamecube sales. Once you've excepted this, you'll be able to move on.


I can't believe one can be so... (insert a bannable word - what a funny game!), please tell me you're just joking with me. Don't humiliate yourself playing the language barrier card, as you seem to be the one having trouble understanding plain English (maybe it's too cold for you in Canada to function properly? Maybe you shouldn't be posting in such condition? Oh, and stop clubbing baby seals while you're at it!). I understand you perfectly and I'm gonna repeat what I've said again. Stop repeating this "if/no if" indie argument. This is your argument, your demon, so stop implying it on me. I haven't referred to this even once, I haven't responded to it, I haven't done a single thing with it, as I don't care about it. It doesn't matter at all to the point that I'm making. This is totally irrelevant to me or the argument I'm making and it really beats me why you cling to it so badly, as it proves nothing in your favour and couldn't even possibly do so. I really have no idea why you keep on repeating this. It's just crazy. I really start to doubt you're ever gonna drop this nonsense. Can't you see that you're stuck in this mud, while I'm strolling along in a completely different direction? There is no point of attachment here.

As far as I can see it was me who said that they are focusing on PS4 vs. XO in the West right now, not you. You really should check that, cause your memory seems to play tricks on you. I have no idea how you've come to believe that you were the one who said it, maybe you should get yourself checked? As I'm a nice guy, I'm gonna provide you with the proper quote:

"Vita support is cut to ensure the success of PS4 in the West. PS4 has to leave the XO in the dust now, while Vita in all honesty can wait a bit more, as it gets good support either way. Nothing that's a mega-bomb on the market, but enough to keep owners happy. I just hope they return to it, as this awesome piece of hardware deserves more love."

No need to thank me!

I'm jumping to lunacy saying Vita will outsell Gamecube? Wow. Just wow. This shows me you are so nervoused or even panicked when reading and replying to my posts, that you don't even understand what I write (hence the "plain English" comment in the beginning). I guess you actually see just how much you humiliate yourself in this conversation, but you keep on fighting anyway. Funny on one hand, but quite sad on the other. Now tell me, oh great Canadian, where have I ever referred to the GCN? Oh... I guess that settles your problem about who's the troll around here and who has managed to "drift into the land of nonsense". Hope you're having fun over there, Shrek!

It doesn't matter if you believe in Unity Engine or not. What matters is that it's proof that they are still investing money in Vita. They wouldn't be doing it, if they were planning to kill it within a year as you "predict" (my God, does this word sound funny here). If you think I'm delusional saying that Vita is the second best selling console in Japan and that it has managed to carve its niche there, that it has managed to secure a few genres and take them away from the 3DS, while the Wii U hasn't got such a firm footing in any market or genre... Then I guess we live in a different reality. Mind you - I'm not saying Wii U's situation won't change, I'm just stating the fact about the current state of both consoles. And as to my reasoning making "absolutely no sense" and your being "intelligent", I'm just gonna remind you that nobody is agreeing with you, while I've managed to get this (thank you Joeorc!):

"@Scisca

100% exactly"

Maybe there actually is a reason for it?

You should really think about it, cool down, close your eyes and slowly count to ten before you reply next time. It happens to the best of us to be totally wrong and by doing this you're gonna spare yourself more laughter.

What the heck are you talking about?  Do you actually stop to think before you go into a nonsensical rant like this? You’re the one who constantly keeps accusing me of implying that I stated you claimed indies would save the PSV, which I did not. I stated If. I even provided a link to the definition which you clearly have failed to even bother checking with as you are still continuing this unintelligent banter. http://www.thefreedictionary.com/IF ,there is the link again. I will even provide you with part of the definition in the hopes it manages to sink in this time “A possibility, condition, or stipulation”. If you still cannot comprehend what I was stating, click the link, If that doesn’t work then maybe you shouldn’t be posting (on any site for that matter). I am done trying to explain this to you. You would think that after taking a few days to come up with a response to my previous post, that you would have managed to at least responded somewhat intelligently. I obviously should not have assumed that. As for being stuck in the mud, it seems that you are the one who has not been able to let this argument go. Even after you have failed to provide a proper response and have continued to further embarrass yourself, you continue to bring it up. As for the Canadian comment, aren’t you from Poland? I’ll be the bigger man as usual and refrain from making a similar comment but considering your background, I would highly refrain from commenting  about other’s ethnic backgrounds :D

Listen, I understand you’re a troll account but even this is too much? Where did the PS4 vs. XO comment come from? I never implied I stated that first. I took your comment and simply used it against you as just about any of the nonsense you’ve posted can easily be done. Had you thoroughly read my earlier comment you would have noticed I was referring to the statement I made of:

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Why are they going to support a sinking ship when the PS4 is going to be heading into a difficult battle for lead market share against the Xbone  ( In N.A for the most part) over the next several years.

 Once again, please read comments thoroughly before responding.

No, not lunacy, complete and utter lunacy is what you have displayed. Unity is irrelevant, something you and Joerc are unable to comprehend. Wow, you’ve managed to get a thank you from someone who is unable to provide proper reason to his argument as well, good job. Because you know, a site that is heavily populated by rose colored glasses wearing Sony fans are not going to agree with themselves. Hell you guy were right on the money about PS3 outselling 360 by 2009….Weren’t you?  Late 2015/early 2016 is not 1 year. We’re in January 2014, do the math. Like I stated to others, it may not be Sony’s decision whether the Vita is pulled or not as if sales continue YoY as I’ve explained it will be retailers (beginning in the West) that start to take back shelf space as they are not going to make room for consoles that sell. Never stated the Vita is not the 2nd best selling console in Japan, what I’m stating is that it won’t last for very long. The software lineup this year is abysmal. Major titles are barely managing to even break a few hundred thousand in sales over there. Let’s keep up the optimism though. Unlike you, I am realistic when it comes to my console of choices sales. If the Wii U continues in the same trend as the Vita, retail will remove it from shelves whether Nintendo likes it or not and that is a plausible scenario.

So how about this, maybe instead of taking a few days this time to create a response that has once again failed to justify your argument. Take a week. Yes a whole week to go over the arguments I’ve given so that maybe, just maybe you actually provide something intelligent to this debate.

 



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