John Lucas really isn't somone you can argue with. He makes his predictions and then more or less leaves it at that. Occasionally he will respond to clarify or explain a specific point, but will not desperatly attempt to disprove anyone who disagrees with him. Crazzy will use horribly flawed logic, bad and biased data, and out right lies or false claims to try and argue with anyone who disagrees. He will out right ignore any point he can't argue with, and do his best to quote you out of context while saying he is undeniably right. One of those people blatantly trolls and the other does not.
Avinash I think only gets away with it because there are not many people willing to put forth the effort to argue with him. He doesn't normally have to resort to twisting arguements and skewed data to support his inane arguement so he doesn't have to resort to troll methods as often.
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