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fatslob-:O on 21 January 2014
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DevilRising said:
fatslob-:O said:
 

SM3DW is selling awfully for the most part because it's probably one of the lowest selling debuted 3D mario title. Don't give me that excuse of lower install base. The point of releasing games is to make people buy the consoles. The fact that NSMBU is selling significantly less compared to NSMBWII means that the franchise has lost power. I use sales numbers, not attach rates. 

FYI those franchises will also probably also have their lowest selling installment on the WII U. The next 3D zelda might be good if they make it realistic compared to wind waker otherwise it will be another lost cause. 

What are you talking about ?! I'm referring to sales numbers the whole time. 


Sorry pal, but ignoring attach rates and the overall sale-rate of the CONSOLE is beyond foolish.

 

Yes, you're talking sales numbers. No shit. So am I. But I'm also being practical and taking into full account the SITUATION Wii U is in. FACT is, considering how long it's been out, and considering the sales of Wii U in general, Mario 3D World selling close to 1.5 million units since it's late Nov. release should in fact be considered solid sales. And like all Mario games, it will have legs, that will carry those sales for the next few years.

Super Mario Galaxy came out on a console that had a MEGA-HIT "must have" system seller in Wii Sports. By the time Mario Galaxy came out, mind you, roughly within the same time-frame from console launch (bout a year), the Wii had sold a LOT more units and had a much higher install-base than around 5 million. By the time NSMB Wii came out in 2009, the Wii already had tens of millions of consoles out in the wild, with Wii Sports, Wii Sports Resort, Wii Fit, and Mario Kart bringing in more sales every single month. Not sure if you've been paying attention, but Wii U has yet to have a SINGLE "must have" console-selling title. Not one. Nintendo Land, while neat, was nothing close to the "Easy to get into, easy to understand, anyone can play" type of killer app that Wii Sports was. Mario 3D World, while a great game, and certainly a game anyone CAN pick up and play, is still not a "MUST HAVE" title for some people. There are still a lot of folks holding off to get a Wii U until Mario Kart and/or Smash Bros. come out. I know this because I've heard countless people say so, online or in real life, even on these forums.

So no, I'm sorry, but their franchises haven't "lost power". If they had, Pokemon wouldn't still be selling by the fuckload, even though the franchise has been largely unchanged with each iteration since 1996. We'll have to wait and see just how well MK8 does, but I'm telling you, not only is the MK franchise more popular than ever, but Nintendo isn't resting on their laurels. They know how important that game is to them, they're going to be pushing/promoting/advertising the living fuck out of it. And there will be an MK bundle at some point in 2014, guaranteed.

MK also lost power too. MK7 hasn't even hit 10 million copies sold yet. -_-

The only exception thus far has been pokemon and that's a SECOND PARTY franchise. It's amazing how some third party developer is the holding one of nintendo's IP is the one to keep it in consistent power and quality compared to what inhouse nintendo studios is doing to their own franchises.