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eFKac said:
lucidium said:
I love when dark feanor shits up a thread with his dummy-spitting denial.

Tantrum on brother, tantrum on.


But how this guy is fierce! He even doesn't believe official Sony numbers from press releases. Now that's some kind of devotion! I almost admire him! Ok maybe not but it's really funny to watch

You and others can't belive Microsoft numbers. 

I on the other hand, can't belive in both until we see their financial reports. However, the Sony numbers are harder to belive than Microsoft's. We have reports all over the world of the lack of PS4 supply or restock since launch.

I'm not like my contryman @ethomas claming I have proofs for any or the other. I ust use the commun sense and estatistics. So, those reports could not represent the real situation any more than those claming there is a huge demand and people lining up inf front of the stores. Second hand prices hasn't go up for the console.

Here, http://www.zoolert.com/videoconsoles/playstation-4/trackers/index.php we have a record for all shipments for online stores.