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Michael-5 said:
Nirvana_Nut85 said:
Michael-5 said:

Sony released games on the PS1-PS3 after the system was discontinued. Why would Sony suddenly stop supporting their system late life? Nintendo still developed for the N64 and Gamecube right up until they were replaced (often seeing some of their best work come out right at the end).

You think the Vita will be discontinued in 2015? Have you looked at Japan sales, Vita is doing fine there. Until hype in Japan dies, they will still sell Vita's here too.

Uncharted, LBP, Persona 4 and Killzone 2 released over a span of 2 years, not 1. All Vita had in 2013 was Tearaway, Killzone, Soul Sacrifice, Ys, and Dragon's Crown. 2014 is already looking better with Gravity Rush 2, FFX, Freedom Wars, Soul Sacrifice Delta, and maybe God Eater 2 outside of Japan.

Anyway, none of the upcoming games releasing for the Vita are System Sellers, any would be lucky to break 1 million, but it's enough to keep the fans happy. I don't see PSV being discontinued any time soon because it's still selling well in Japan. Plus all Sony needs to do is announce an Uncharted: Golden Abyss 2 a Gran Turismo, or even just a God of War, and boom that guarenteed Vita will be around for at least 3 years.

See the problem with your argument (at the end especially) is that your adding hypotheticals. Well if the announced such and such, it would do this and this. They are not going to do it at this point because they do not want to loose money, plain and simple. Uncharted just barely managed to move a million units and that was including bundles which speaks volumes. You've also listed games that technically fall under 2013 (for Japan at least) FFX & God Eater 2.

FFX has already seen a significant decrease from week one and will probably end up with 500K in sales (japan). Japan tends to historically have the highest FF sales per entry across all regions so the other's will not contribute too much. I would bet the other games listed will struggle to reach 500k units a piece and will be mainly purchased by existing owners. They are not true blue system sellers.


Your arguement is also hypothetical. You're expecting sales to drop 30% when they grew nearly 100% in their largest territory (Japan - 438k in 2011, 670k in 2012, 1,209k in 2013). Plus in Japan, there are a lot of great games releasing in 2014, so..... It's unfair to assume a WW drop.

Loose too much money? This is hypothertical because Sony has always supported their consoles, even after they were replaced (GT6 could have brought more revenue on the PS4)

As for FF sales, you're also wrong here. FF typically sells better or at least on par with Japan in North America. Crisis Core sold 150% better in North America then Japan, and Worldwide it sold nearly 300% as much.

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FFX is going to be big for outside of Japan. FFXII will be big for every region. Soul Sacrifice Delta, Freedom Wars, Disgaea 4, Sword Art Online, etc will push Japanese system sales too.


I'm going on the basis of Dec launch date to the same sales week in Dec 12 and then comparing Dec 12 to December 13 which provides two full years of console sales in Japan. My numbers are not incorrect as they are giving full sales years. 

There is a difference between releasing a title late into a consoles life when there is an 80 mill plus userbase that will result in several million sales that will result in profit vs a dying handheld that is not a sigificant part of their business. They are not going to throw away money.

Only 2 FF's have sold more in N.A than JAP. The odds do not favour FFXHD making a significant impact.

I don't disagree with those games moving systems in Japan. I just do not believe it will be in a significant enough way and at most wee will see 1.5 million sold in Jap Dec13- Dec 14 while E.U and N.A become almost non existant which will lead to Sony stopping production by late 2015 allowing for the possibility of sales being less than gamegear.



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