oniyide said:
Multishanks said:
oniyide said:
Multishanks said:
oniyide said:
DevilRising said:
drake4 said:
They need to just go thirdparty on consoles, they just don't have the core market that sony and microsoft, they can't compete and nintendo knows that and thats why they made the wii, and it was a huge success but thats not happening again the blue ocean market has moved on, they are stuck with out a market and no third party support, chances of being succesful are nearly impossible, the console is really hurting the company, they better focusing on handhelds and making x1 and ps4 games.
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Yes, because that would totally be worth it. It obviously has worked out great for Sega, yes? Still just as great as in their glory days, yes?
Oh wait.....
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please Sega was messing up long before they went 3rd party, they went 3rd party because they messed up and even after they did they were still good for awhile
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So are you saying they got better going third party?
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im saying it didnt get worst. they put out alot of nonsense and crap right after the Genesis, got better with Dreamcast damage was already done, they pretty much carried the DC like stuff with them to the PS2/GC/Xbox hell most of the games on those systems were enchanced ports and sequels. and the portable stuff was pretty good. Sega only just recently messed up but its fallacy that it was because they went 3rd party, they fell off for the same reasons, Tecmo, SE, Capcom etc fell off.
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So their goal should be to invest more money and not be worse. I would hate to go into n investor's meeting with that strategy.
And Sega gets most of it's money from Sega Sammy, so nintendo should get involved with gambling and leave the console market completely. ;p
My take on it is no one really knows what they should do because that is the state of the industry right now. It's in a huge transition where things are very much unsure. Nintendo picked a hell of a time to have a soft launch and post launch. Consumers are confused by their direction and rightfully so. They will figure something out though. They've been expanding for a reason.
I'm honestly not sure anyone knows what to do at this point. Microsoft is probably the most succesful at this point and they started out this generation back tracking. This will be interesting to see in two to three years.
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I never said they should go 3rd party, but to act like there would be no benefits is just lying to ourselves, for one they are not spending money on HW which would mean more money for other stuff. ANd the Sega comparisons are wrong. Sega became 3rd party because they messed up so much for so long. The idea that Sega was great prior to going 3rd party is wrong and ignoring, the Saturn, CD, 32x and to a lower extent DC debacles. Sega didnt start sucking becasue they went 3rd party, they started sucking cause they had a poor transition into the Wii/PS3/360 era just like damn near every other Japanese company
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First off this is your opinion and people disagree. I don't think going third party would be benfitless, I am just not convince that it would fix anything which is the goal of a company struggling. I am not saying Sega was great before they left the hardware business, I am just saying that you would be hard pressed to say things improved once they did.
