Prediction:The future is handheld gaming, consoles will die this gen.

[ninetailschris]

torok said:

ninetailschris said:

Would you buy a console for third party games if you could play them all on your handheld? The future of cloud gaming will let us play games on high-end systems on low-end phones or other handheld devices.

But iPhone and Handhelds doesn't have buttons/controls.

IOS 7 let's us use controllers today with no problems and systems like 3ds could simply add second stick.The controllers cost like 20 dollars.

But I want to play on my tv or moniter.

You can buy a hdmi cord for many iPhones and iPads today. 

 

 

Why would I want to have a seperate system to do one thing when I could a system do everything? Cloud gaming could actual make iPhones more powerful than consoles.I feel like consoles are horses of the mailman history. It's outdated and a practice that needs to die for we can truly evolve. Do you disagree?

 

Well, two scenarios:

- Without cloud gaming: mobile phones and handhelds will never reach consoles. A mobile SoC have to deal with a TDP of 12 W on tablets and less than that in smaller devices. A console can consume 200 W without much problem while a PC could even consume 1000 W or more. You can't do the same with much less power unless you use a much more advanced technology, so mobile SoCs are always some years behind in power. Nvidia is still trying to beat PS360 with their SoCs, they won't come close to PS4/One power in less than 7 or 8 years (and by then, PS5/Xbox whatever will be the hot new thing). 

Obs.: Before anyone says that Tegra K1 beats PS360, I'm still a bit sceptical. Nvidia promissed a lot of things on Tegra 3 (I have one) and underdelivered. They promissed PS360 quality on Tegra 4 and underdelivered. I actually believe Tegra K1 could be their last SoC.

 

- With cloud gaming: you won't need a mobile at all. Why you will need your phone for that? Your TV can to the job with just a paired joystick. I'm betting that we will see at least one more generation of dedicated consoles after PS4/One, then maybe we will go to cloud gaming. Anyway, looking at how things are now, we will have the same companies that manufactured consoles serving cloud gaming (MS already has cloud services, Sony have PS Now and Nintendo have some good 7 years to move or become obsolete).

 

If cloud becomes a reality, it won't kill consoles. It will kill all computing devices as we know them and replace by thin client versions. PS5 could be a cheap and weak device of the size of Vita TV paired with DS5 using a low power comsumption SoC and playing cloud games. 

Nice response and thank you for reading my post.

Paragraph 1: Cloud gaming doesn't depend on power. It's really based on bandwidth. That's how we are able to play high hd movies on our iPhones. Netflix is example of this. Nivida cards are irrelevant to the discussion because it's based on bandwidth of the Internet provider not the power of system.

Paragraph 2: Cloud like services are expected to grow by a lot in next two three years.

 Source:cisco

The way we deal with data is become more and more controlled by cloud storage. Many Internet providers are expected to grow to this trend to keep up with demand. Many companies like cisco are pulling for them to meet this trend.

In Japan they would have no problem meeting this demand.

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In the USA we are getting close. But we are doing better than predicted! Look at the jumps.

Nobody is saying the tvs will die out this gen we are saying consoles are. Do you still use your home phone or your cell phone? What about camera? Do you mail people still? Why did all things die or lose huge market share? Because one thing could do it all. Why would I not want a iPhone I could plug up to my tv and play my games. I want to buya device that does it all. Most people want the same. The less devices in the house is trend for the the future.

Paragraph 4: why would I buy a console wiiu2/ps5/xbox2 to play cloud gaming, when my iPhone can do that? You don't buy a iPhone than say "wow I really need a home phone with it." More would prefer just to use there phone where they bring it anyway with no problem and plug it up anyway. If they want they could call there friend or take pictures. If your taking about turning them into phones than they aren't consoles anymore.

Sorry for double post, please merge mod if possible.