zorg1000 said:
superhippy420 said:
zorg1000 said:
supernihilist said: Mario kart and smash will. I find hilarious the people underestimete both games ability to move HW. A MK8 or Smash bundle with the game pre-installed at 200$ will sell GANGBUSTERS on black friday/holidays/golden week etc. 2014 and 2015 will be the peak years, i expect WiiU to sell 12m+ between the two...which is not much compared to Wii or PS4 but still it may let WiiU reach N64 numbers. |
Yes Mario Kart and Smash Bros are big franchises but they will basically push hardware to GC/N64 levels. People arent underestimating those games, most people are actually being pretty realistic about them. Mario Kart beneffited greatly from the casual audience and huge install base on Wii which Wii U does not have. Smash Bros is now multiplat releasing at the same time as the 3DS version and since it currently has 8x the install base plus being much cheaper and Japan being so handheld centric, its very feasible that version eats into the console version sales.
Its very realistic to believe these games revert back to there pre-Wii level of sales which is 5.5-7m for Smash Bros and 7-10m for Mario Kart. The op is talking about a game that can boost sales to 80m+ which these games certainly wont.
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If it wasnt for Smash Bros and Mario Kart, the Gamecube would have been flopped so hard that Nintendo may not have ever even made the Wii. The good news is that the gap between the 1st and Melee was only 2 years and it saw 1.5 million in growth, while the gap between Melee and Brawl was 6.5 years and it saw 5 million in growth. I'm not saying that it will see another 5 million bump, but we just saw with GTA 5 the effect that making people wait a long time can have on a games sales. I would make a prediction on Mario Kart 8's sales, but I suspect Nintendo will bundle it and that could make a massive difference.
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Yep GC would have sold less without those games but that doesnt change the fact that they couldnt push It past 22m. Mario Kart was bundled on GC as well and like I said Smash is releasing at the same time on 3DS which could potentially cut off any growth on the console version.
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The Gamecube has 2 main problems that killed it. 1. PS2 had a DVD player, which was massive in an era where most gamers were younger and parents were buying the consoles. 2. The lineup was all aimed at the same crowd. As a 15 year old high schooler, I thought it was the greatest console ever, but looking back games like F-Zero GX, Luigi's Mansion, Mario Sunshine, SSBM, Resident Evil 4, Metroid Prime, Custom Robo, and pretty much every 3rd and most 1st party games were all aimed at hardcore games. The 3DS version could hurt growth, but at the same time we are talking about the best selling fighting game of all time. Even if the Sales are pretty even, Its still going to move atleast 7 - 8 million on Wii U and 6 -7 million on 3DS.