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generic-user-1 said:
dont forget the NSA aura that m$ has atm, europe is pissed, realy pissed, and its far more sensitiv than the US, there were 100.000 people in warsaw on the streets against acta,,,they real dont like to be spyed on..


This is what a lot of people like to ignore. Snowden stating that MS "worked closely with NSA" quickly followed by the German and French spying scandal by the US reflects poorly on kinect in Europe.

These stories probably didn't make the US news media but they were the headlines in Europe.

As for the OP stating that "MS will do anything to be no.1".  Look at Ballmer's situation now. That's why xbox is still in the red with rumours of a sell off. 

Maybe it's more intelligent to do "anything to be no 1" with Bing and Windows phone... maybe not come to think of it. That's going off topic, however.

In Europe Sony going with paid subscriptions this gen means even fewer people will be likely to pick up both consoles and they have already made their choice.