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hysterianut on 03 January 2014
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Kasz216 said:
Better standard of living = Greater wealth.

Wealth = Standard of living.

well if you go by that definition then yes


standard of living is different for everybody.you use the point of view that everybody want to live the western lifestyle which is looking at it in a communistic way that western universalism is the way to go

a middle class house,a swimighpool,a job after college,etc may be a good standard of living for an american

an african doesn't have a civilization and likes to live freely,according to him tribal soceity is better standard of living


This whole conversation is based largely on you not knowing what wealth is.

there is no cuch one deffintion of wealth.


its like battle of ideologies,capitalism vs socialism vs communism,everybody has their own way

that is where you are stuck and think your way is the right way,thinking in a universal collectivist way

 

normally through ages before the battle of ideologies,purcahsing power percentage used to be wealth.in those times the amount of gold you had which was money used to be wealth as you could purcahse as much gold you had.

todays banks just print money and people use credit cards to stack on debt

 

well its like saying the wealth gap remained the same or because bigger between rich and poor but cause nowadays the poor can have a bit more food he's richer while everything else like his clothes,house,children's future remain same or worse.

 

 


And yes. You sound like a marxist. Just a very confused, uneducated marxist.

right?


keep living in your fantasy world


The only people who have ever considered wealth disparity wealth in the entire history of modern economics, are marxists, based on Marx's theory that general wealth and goods aren't important, just relative wealth.


he didn't talk about wealth,he said people should be given equality and what they need not what they want

i am the exact opposite that we should have wealth inequality and people should get as much as they work for


You may not be there yet, but if you keep your same economic beliefs, marxism is the only result. As free markets only increase wealth disparity at the advantage of creasing higher levels of material goods. This is true with or without central banks.

yes but free markets don't last for long,the british had a free market under their empire,that collapsed in 1914 and then their empire collapsed and went bankrupt.

mongols had free markets and that collapsed

 

i am not atall for regulated free markets by the united nations of world trade organisation

i am for freedom that any nation should be allowed to invade other nations and take their wealth aka resources.

 

this false peace that we have had for the last 60-70 years since world war2 will not last much more



So is the creation of bubbles and booms and busts. The only difference is, bubbles are smaller and more frequent. Either way, at the end more often then not people end up wealthier then when they started. Just not as wealthy as they were at the height of the boom.

yes boom and bust is natural


but todays boom is way past the natural thing without gold anchoring

i am not agains central banks,i am against them being above the tresury and not above them


And one last time... far less people starving and dieing is important... because even if there is some shifting scale of wealth. There is no level of wealth that makes "not having as much stuff as some other dude" equal to dead

it does.it might not be to the ones benfiting from globalization aka us corporations and us workers and consumers because of their higher credit rating

but americans are soon finding it out with their debt levels and jobs being shipped off to china.the upper hand americans got because of dollar reserve currency is now dying out.

 

far less people not dying is like saying send all the children to schools and colleges and then when they come out there are no jobs for them.

betterment of all,the higher mission aka COMMUNISM

 

 

anyways i am gonna leave it at this,you are like a wall.Stuck in your own world and don't seem to understand anything in a conversation