The true DMC fans
You didn't even know that DMC4 wasn't in the HD Collection, you can't even keep the idea of a lock on straight, and you've said that Nero's combat is the best out of the older Devil May Cry games. At this point, you've pretty much admitted you don't even like the old Devil May Crys. Calling yourself a DMC fan is a joke at this point.
According to Capcom this is the best DMC game they designed.
This is a lie.
In Metroid Prime, you can very easily lock on to a target without moving towards them just by aiming at the one you want and pressing L.You don't need to move to lock on to anything. It's the same way here. The AI picks a target that it thinks you want to attack, and then you cycle through said targets until you reach the one you want. You are manually selecting your target. In DmC, if you're halfway across the map and the AI picks a target you don't want, then you can't choose the one you want outside of moving over.
Mhm, those are my words, yes. Now consider this: Metroid Prime has a manual lock on system. In Metroid Prime, you press a button, and you lock on to a target. Now, tell me, which one, Devil May Cry 3/4, or DmC, has you press a button in order to lock on to a target?
I suggest you have a look at putting your foot in your mouth, since now your doubling back on your original words. Unfortuantely here in a forum I can easily go back and prove that you did indeed put your foot in your mouth, which you have just done again with that denial.
...sorry kid, but no. Metroid Prime, in a similar fashion to DMC4, has you press a button (some input besides relative position and movement) in order to lock on to a target. I haven't doubled back over anything.
The reason Hideki Kamiya's words hold no meaning for you is because your a DMC4 fan, not a DMC fan. Which is what I originally said from the beginning. If you were a true DMC fan you would have never blindly accepted the camp homo as Dante. Now explain to me camp homo fan, just because you accepted the camp homo as Dante, why do the original fans have to blindly accept what you did? I'm a DMC1 fan, I don't listen to DMC4 fans on who Dante is, because they will do anything to try and validate DMC4. Even if it means degrading the words of the series creator and the orignal game, which you have just done.
It's the same reason you can't formulate a halfway coherent argument, and are forced to resort to just mindlessly throwing straw men out.
Fact of the matter is, if you claim DMC4 Dante isn't the same Dante as the original series, you yourself are going against what Capcom has publicly stated. Whichever side you take, you're going to say that someone involved in the original Devil May Cry's creation is wrong. I choose to accept the company who happens to be behind the original DMC, and every game since as well.
Is that all you got? 'Go debate a dictionary'? We both know DmC is manual at this point. Whether you like it or not is irrelevant, Capcom designed the game that way. Thats why you can never be right, because contray to your belief your are not above the compitency of Hideaki Itsuno and Capcom Japan. As you arrogantly so claim.
Well then, it's a shame we "both know it" and Tameem Antionandes doesn't.
I'm still waiting on an answer for this, by the way. The creator of this awful reboot has stated himself that it doesn't have a manual system. Are you going to tell me that he's a liar now, and then accuse me of being arrogant?
According to whom is that not good enough? DMC4 fan scum who wanted DMC4's automatic lock-on?
According to Tameem Antionades, that's who. According to Ninja Theory, and according to the entire Devil May Cry fanbase.
Seriously, you are the only one on the entire internet who is insisting that DmC has a manual lock on. Go take a trip to Google and search for "DmC lock on system." Let me know how many people you find saying that DmC is manual.
If you can't handle a bit of swearing I suggest you keep to playing games like DMC4 and FF13. The Last of Us, GTA5 and DmC have swearing. If you can't be mature about it, thats not my problem. DmC Dante was a three dimensional hero this time. If your not happy with Dante having more depth, thats not my problem. I suggest you go back to camp, homoerotic poses. Yet you don't question shit like that, which butchered an icon, because you are a lying DMC4 fan, nothing more.
It's not that swearing is inherently a problem; DMC3 and DMC4 Dante both curse ocassionally. The issue is that the only form of taunting that DmC Dante does is swearing. That's the only trick he's got up his sleeve. Swearing is funny every so often, but when it's all a character does, it quickly becomes really bland, like a kid on X-Box live.
...sorry. Swearing and talking about how watching a kid explode into little wet chunks was priceless.
Anyway, DmC Dante is just as one dimensional as every other Devil May Cry character. The only difference is that DmC tried to make him out to be some sort of well developed character, and failed miserably in the process.
DmC sold more than the DMC HD collection.
With PC sales thrown in, yes. I was limiting it to a console vs. console standard, since the HD collection wasn't released on PC. But I suppose if you want, you can throw in PC and give DmC the victory. Kind of pathetic though when you need an extra platform in order to outsell an HD re-release.
I responded already to the majority of what you posted below, so I'm not wasting time with what's already been discussed.
... *Facepalm*. Seriously? Are you seriously using Turbo Mode as an argument? Is this a joke? Turbo Mode increases the games speed by 20-30%, it dosen't exist on DMC4 PS3/360 either. If the fans wanted to they could probably mod Bayonetta to run faster, just like they did with DmC to run much faster than DMC4.
And if they modded it to go that fast, I would be willing to be that a large portion of the peope playing the game would have trouble pulling off full circle + button moves. See the problem yet?
... Your words are availble to see in plain black and white, you did say it. You've already been exposed, what are you trying convince me of now. That you were wrong before?
Things like this are what convince me you have the reading comprehension of a five year old.
Lock on attacks are NOT something a game throws out due to faster pacing. My words state that a game can afford to throw out lock on attacks if it goes at a slow enough pace to allow inputs through other methods. This is not the same as saying that if a game isn't fast enough, it can't have lock on attacks. In fact, it's the direct opposite.
If you need some help with those big words, just ask.
HAHAHAHAHA. You are not seriosuly saying this? Can you not see yourself at this point. You don't actually don't know what your saying. You keep making up more and more things to amend your failures. Where have Capcom actually said that? Where is your proof that Platinum Games are not capable of doing the same things with their games? The arrogance of your posts is dire. You do not decide what developers can and can't do with their games. If you want to tell Hideki Kamiya that Bayonetta cannot have a Turbo Mode because Bayonetta won't allow fast inputs on higher speeds, then tell him on Twitter. I'll look forward to the moment he tells you to fuck off for telling him you know more about designing action games than him.
Well kids, here's a textbook example of how to argue.
"Wah wah wah, I don't have a good response, so I'll type a lot of ha ha has, tell him he doesn't know what he's saying, and then refer him to the game developer because I don't know what to say myself."
There you go again, trying to incorporate something else into the argument so you can avoid answering the question directly about DmC. Once again, I've said this before, DmC's lock on in maintained on the enemy by holding the L3 stick in the direction of that enemy. Allowing you to isolate your attacks to one specific enemy indefinitely. That is how the manual lock works. Intead of holding a button (R1) you hold the L3 stick. Has that fact penetrated your brain cells yet?
What's penetrated my brain is that you've realized that your definition doesn't hold water, and now you're trying to backpeddle your way out of it by saying that it doesn't apply to all video games.
Nice try, but no. Movement does not qualify as a lock on.
Wrong again DMC4 fan. You cannot choose a new enemy to lock onto, the AI does it for you. Hence why the system is automatic. Thus based on your own words DMC4 was automatic and yes broken too, as we saw with video proof:
Can you cycle through targets until you reach the one you want?
Yes? Then it's manual.
Lol. HAHAHA. When you didn't know about the move, you claim their different moves. Angel Evade is the equilivant of Trickster Dash. That player modded it for whatever reason. You don't like that you were exposd not my problem.
How exactly is you referencing a fan mod, having me call you out on that move not being in the game, and then you crying about how you actually meant something else me being exposed?
Where are all these fans now? Numbers mean very little without context. Theres no point in me explaining the contextual factors to you because at the end of that day you will never admit that DMC4 was not a true sequel to Devil May Cry 1. You will continue to pretend that DMC4 was a good game because of the sales and nothing to do witht the qaulity of the game itself, which was abysmal when comapred to other action games.
I would assume all these fans are probably off playing some halfway decent action title like Metal Gear Rising, since DmC was awful.
Enough of the fanbase still remains to make a freaking re-release of titles from TWO generations ago outsell DmC.
Your definition is not a universal law DMC4 scum. Its this arrogance to impose your own definitions and rules as universal truths that have make you scum. You words are not absolute, I never have to accept them. We are each entitled to our own opinions, you do not control what we think DMC4 scum.
Except it's not just my defintion. Go visit the Devil May Cry boards across the internet, and see what the fanbase says.
Here, I'll even save you some trouble on the off chance divine intervention strikes you over the head. Here's a quote from the DMC IGN board:
"*DmC does not use the standard hard lock on system of ALL previous DMC games before it. ... There is no manual target switching of course."
And here's a topic where a DmC fan claims that DmC having an automatic lock on system is better than DMC having a manual one.
Seriously, I meant what I said earlier. If you can find another person on the internet who is claiming DmC is manual, show it to me now and you'll have a case. A single person. That's all you need.
But you won't be able to find one, I'm betting. Because everyone uses this definition.
Your opinion is not a fact. If you think DmC's combat is broken, thats your own opinion. Don't tell me I have to get in line with someone because they wanted DMC4 to continue.
Certainly, and if you want to like DmC, you're welcome to. But let's remember who came on here first, crying about Dante being too silly and yelling about how I was a "lying DMC4 fan."
You even said that yourself, yet had to amend your words when you failed agian.
On accident, I substituted the wrong word into a sentence.
You are the last person who should be criticizing a grammar mistake, Mr. "You Claim to Question My Literacy Age."
You made a comment about English literacy, yet you use Spanish words. Way to contradict and put your foot in your mouth again.
So being bilingual means that I'm inherently illiterate in the English language?
Excellent logic there.
Its true DmC exceeds the combat of the previous games, according to the fans, the developers and the reviewers.
3:1 sales, kid.
I waiting for a response to this point. RESPOND or hide from this point like the coward you are, which is it camp homo fan scum? I'M WAITING!!!
I responded 5, 6, 7, and 9 posts ago to this. You conveniently ignored each instance, so no, I'm not wasting my time typing up another response for you to ignore as well.
