ioi speaks out about ergh "VGC analysts"

[DonFerrari]

Zod95 said:

DonFerrari said:

why anyone else would care so much about the sales that two games in the ranking are separated by some few Ks and because of that one is 8th and the other 9th or something like that?

Not even close. Based on ioi's statement and regarding the last weekly chart, we can be:

- 60% confident that each game of the top 10 will range from 50% to 150% (yet, this can make the 10th to be 1st and the 1st to be 10th!)

- 20% confident that each game of the top 10 will range from 67% to 133% (yet, this can make the 9th to be 1st and the 1st to be 9th!)

- 3% confident that each game of the top 10 will range from 83% to 117% (yet, this can make a game like GT6 to step up from 8th to 3rd!)

So even if we were in the lucky 3%, the ranking wouldn't have much credibility yet. So my question is: why is there a ranking?? I'm not criticizing the methodology used to get the data (like I said earlier, VG Chartz seems to be doing a good job there), I'm criticizing the way the figures are presented. Obviously when you consider each number individually the confidence is high but when you conciliate them in a ranking the margins of error grow exponentially to the point that there is no way we can trust in such a ranking. Even focusing only on the top 10, the confidence that each game to be in the right place is much less than 3% (once the 83%-117% level could still make a game to jump from 8th to 3rd!).

Therefore, I understand the people that say VG Chartz is misleading rather than calling them stupid. Above all, each person has an opinion (otherwise he/she wouldn't be here on the forum), which should be respected rather than ignored or target for insults. I don't know how a site admin can lower to such a level. If this is his userbase he should be promoting it, not flamebaiting it. If there are agressive comments made by users, why don't we make them less agressive (work on the community) instead of lowering to the same level? I don't have any problem of saying that. I prefer to be honest rather than flattering the admin just because he is powerful and important here. I think I'm even respecting him more this way.

 

 

kowenicki said:

Some really aggressive "guests" of this website posting aren't there? Saying the owner lacks class and constantly saying he is talking bullshit is kinda odd.

What would you think of a person that calls stupid and idiot other users? A gentleman? Let's be honest, you would think such a person should be banned. But since he is the site admin let's defend him, right? Let's criticize the other side, which only said he lacked of class... so much hypocrisy I see here...

I can relate to the ranking being really incoerent even if we had just 5% of error, when accumulating the error for all items in the ranking it can get misplaced, but is that what really bothers you? And as brett put their top 10 were really close to NPD.