ioi speaks out about ergh "VGC analysts"

[DonFerrari]

Max King of the Wild said:

@brett,

I call bullshit on your first bullet point. No corporation will give inside information. Thats defonitly against policy. If you do have that info then someone could get fired. Now maybe you have someone like Ben leaking information or an employee at a local retailer willimg to talk about sales but i cant see much more. As for consumer data, well... Id like to know where that comes from. I dont see vgc willing to pay a survey group to pay consumers to collect legit data. Where are you being misleading? Well... (and this is my biggest gripe) how about on the front page. Anyone who visit the site isnt going to know someone named Brett runs the site, is a user named ioi and has made numerous posts explaining his methodology (or... why welse do you think you run into the same issues time and again? Its because the site is set up like a sales tracker along with vgcpro).

 

Now, I wont argue the accuracy of the numbers because thats your work and Im sure you will feel like Im attacking your work which would piss most people off.

I just cant see the ad revenue from the site being enough to support an office and a team. But hell, if it works then good for you. So, youve befriended someone from the NPD geoup then? Again, Im calling bullshit. Im sure NPD has polacies they conduct their busoness under but if you knew a worker personally then Im sure they would gladly tell you more. Now, im not saying they would spill the beans and give up evrrything.

If you say no corporation would give info to Brett because of policies (and you are mostly right) how NPD would collect the same data?? Here is a tip they collect data from single stores across the country (there is nothing stoping 100 of different employees from different retail chains to say how many of each item they have sold). About customer data I would like to know but certainly isn't as absurd as you say... you talk about Ben, but you have bee freely been tossing numbers here for PS4 and Xbone sales.

You have already argued the accuracy and almost personally attacked the owner, which seems much more level headed then most users, since in any other thread you would be banned or worst for this kind of stance, maybe you have saw it comming and tonned down.

If you can't see how much they earn from running VGC them you don't even have to discuss... and about NPD, you were the one that said if you meet some NPD worker they would happily tell all (now you add if you know him personally, and guess what we don't know Brett personally), he would tell just if he isn't professional... that is work ethics and privileged information and the guy should be fired and prosecuted if he leaks the methodology for you.

The only problem I would have with VG numbers is like the numbers from PS2 (which is way off from shipment figures, but I imagine most don't care because it have been discontinued) and GT5p because its 25% of PD figures (we don't know if PD stated shipped figures using digital sales as well, but I doubt)... and surely there are other issues like that, data that have more than 5 years of iteration and should be really close but haven't been adjusted, but it doesn't really bother me.

@ioi any particular reason why some of those really of number aren't corrected? Is more because it isn't worthy, it's old or not enough people have brought it to your attention?