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seiya19 on 26 December 2013
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Kresnik said:
tbone51 said:

Ok. Thats not fair at all. All the games i listed are big. You guys are just picking the biggest ones. Thats like saying if a game doesn't sell 5mil+ WW it isnt big! :-/

Vita has big games even if most of them dont sell past 200k lifetime. I put games that are going to sell 100k-500k which are big. I dont see why nintendo big is necessarily 1mil+. Than that means 3DS has no big games  aside from 6-7 in japan 


Okay.  Let's go back to the beginning then Tbone.  Ryuzaki said:

ryuzaki57 said:
3DS is definitely beginning its decline though. Not beating last year's LTD with this year's line up is rather surprising, and there's hardly anything big for 2014 so far.

You then assaulted him with a list of "big" games.

The point, to me, has been that 3DS has been selling extremely well for the past 3 years thanks to actually big games (Mario Kart/3D World; Animal Crossing/NSMB; Pokemon/Monster Hunter) and there's nothing on the horizon for 2014 to match that.  Yes, "maybe" Pokemon Z and "possibly" Monster Hunter 4G, but nothing confirmed so far other than Smash which is a wild card.  Dragon Quest XI would be a good companion for it, but we don't know squat about that game so far.

The point has always been about maintaining hardware sales for a 4th year.  I know you don't see it as that, but that's what Ryuzaki was getting at and that's what I've been continuing with.

And I guess we just have different definitions of "big".  Look at PSP software sales.  Monster Hunter is in a league of its own.  Then there's a cluster of "big" stuff (i.e. Dissidia; Metal Gear Solid; God Eater; Phantasy Star) before we move down to the mid-level stuff.  That's how I base my metrics.  I think we're just going to have to agree to disagree on that last point.

Don't you think it's a bit ridiculous to make this kind of call so early, use an interpretation of "big" that only a handful of IPs have ever been able to achieve, dismiss founded speculation regarding a few of said IPs, and criticize the result ?. The standards become so high that no platform could ever reach them...

If we talk about million sellers, Mario Party: Island Tour, Dragon Quest Monsters 2 and Kirby Triple Deluxe can very well get there. Maybe Yoshi and Smash, perhaps even Zelda (part of it in 2014). All these are on the same level as any non-Monster Hunter game on PSP in Japan, and just stuff we know already. I honestly don't see how can this lineup be put into question considering the reality of the market. If these games along with anything that might come (Dragon Quest/Monster Hunter/Rhythm Heaven/Pokémon/new IPs/smaller games/etc) can't keep 3DS from a "substantial" decline, what can ? Where is the line here that separates reasonable expectations from unreasonable ones ?