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bonzobanana said:
Nintendo horribly compromised the wii u in performance so it could be made for very little money and give them huge profits. Unlike the wii it backfired and people have not bought it.

Microsoft have done a similar thing on a lesser scale. They ripped out part of the capacity of the GPU so they could put in 32MB of ESRAM so they could use low cost DDR3 memory. A huge compromise but again it gives them a good profit if the console sells well. No PC has ever been designed in such a way as it hugely compromises performance.

Sony did not take such a compromise with the PS4, they took existing PC technology but designed it to max out that technology. The end result was on early released games at times they were delivering 1080p when xbox one was delivering 720p. I've already seen many reports that development time on xbox one is much longer than ps4.

The 32MB of ESRAM is effectively video memory/frame buffer. Clearly this is very limited and makes the Xbox one more limited in future with regard, 4K support, 3D gaming etc.

We are seeing the ps4 delivering twice the pixels of xbox one on multiplatform games but this could also be twice the detail in 720p games on both systems.

I don't want kinect so effectively an xbox one represents paying more for a much weaker console. Hence my Xbox one purchase may be years away but I hope to get a ps4 in the new year. Absolutely no way I'm paying £430 for an xbox one. It just doesn't represent anywhere near the performance level you would expect for that price. I built my new PC for £200 (had hdd, os and xbox pad already) and that is far more powerful than xbox one.

It uses a quad core 4ghz x 4 AMD A10 5800k with built in graphics which work in combination with a pci express HD 6670 card to give about 1.5 terraflops of performance. It also has 10GB in total (2GB in PCI GPU). Plays games like Skyrim in 1080p silky smooth with medium/high graphic settings approx (some very high, some high, some medium).

Lets face it the PS4 isn't really going all out for power but Microsoft have really gone cheap on their console. Not Nintendo cheap but still pretty bad.

I'm not a fanboy I have both a ps3 and xbox 360 and was a massive fan of the original xbox. This time though the Xbox console is much weaker than its main competitor and yet costs more money. End result no sale.

thats not true,the xbone actually cost more to make then a ps4, its just microsoft decided years ago that they would go ddr3 so they can have 8gb of ram to make the all in one enterinment console, while sony decided years ago they were going with 4gb of gddr5 years ago, cause they wanted to make the best gaming console.  gddr5 prices went down and they decided they would just go for 8gigs, microsoft decided years ago they would sacrafice power to make the best entertainment console, the end result was a mess of a console.